Alexander: Who thought this was a good idea??

[RiceisNice]

Tokens are there so people will need to farm said number to exchange for sets removing the RNG factor altogether, lets say sth similar to allagan tomestones. Adding RNG layers to irrelevant gear like that atm makes it a waste of time, better spend your time in Diadem.

That's fine, if they were similar to tomestones, where you don't have to roll for it. I mean imagine if they made tomestones drops in set of 200s but oyu had to roll on it with other players. That's the problem you'd see right now with how alexander is with the tokens.

[TheUltimate3]

Now not only is it impossible to get floors done quickly because people don't take it seriously any more

RNG drops aside, I would have thought the reason why nobody takes it seriously was because, for months, everybody and their mother claimed it was brain dead easy that you could AFK your way through.

Turns out not the be the case from what I've seen.

[Cuervo78]

I don't want to sound like that person here, but how is this different from rolling loot in any other instance?

Because everyone can roll need on everything, for normal loot you usually just comptete with players that share your main stat

[Vaer]

I don't want to sound like that person here, but how is this different from rolling loot in any other instance?

You have need/greed protection on full pieces of gear based on the job/role you are playing so that immediately eliminates some competition. With full pieces of gear you narrow down the amount of people based on role then job to around ~1-2 based on party composition, more if you have more of the same type of DPS. If it's free for all the potential is you have to roll against 7 people every time which lowers your chance of winning.

[Nekodar]

You have need/greed protection on full pieces of gear based on the job/role you are playing so that immediately eliminates some competition. With full pieces of gear you narrow down the amount of people based on role then job to around ~1-2 based on party composition, more if you have more of the same type of DPS. If it's free for all the potential is you have to roll against 7 people every time which lowers your chance of winning.

While you have that sort of "protection" in normal need/greed, you can also end up running it over and over and never actually see anything you can need on in those cases. It balances out.
Be able to need only a few items out of a large loot pool, or be able to need everything from a small loot pool.

[CrimsonThunder]

RNG has no quarter, it favours no one. We plebians can never hope to understand it's divine will.

[Vaer]

While you have that sort of "protection" in normal need/greed, you can also end up running it over and over and never actually see anything you can need on in those cases. It balances out.
Be able to need only a few items out of a large loot pool, or be able to need everything from a small loot pool.

Honestly rolling vs 2-ish people on stuff that might not even drop seems better to me than having potentially one person winning everything and 7 other people in the group getting nothing. I mean this system is great for PF and friends but it's doesn't seem to work well with DF.

[Odds_Ends]

Afro lala = instant evil......

So....I better do alex just with fc now then.

[Stupiduglytaru]

Afro lala = instant evil......

So....I better do alex just with fc now then.

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