I love it, seeing that almost all the gear looks horrible. And that for the most part, my HQ crafted counterparts surpass them. I mean if they actually looked like true end-game/unique gear I might be a little saddened by the fact that they are being rendered obsolete. But they don't meet any of my standards, Thus I could care less. Give me new gear SE~
I just can't see how they're justified personally attacking me yet whatever I do is "trolling" to them because it's not what they want to hear.
This game OBVIOUSLY needs to have something to do for ALL PLAYERS to enjoy. It's an MMO and it makes money off people playing it, not having nothing to do. Just because some people are more "causal" than others and don't have the dungeon items or w/e they're mad about doesn't mean everyone has to wait for them to catch up.
I am so sick of this "hardcore" vs "casual" argument and it being brought up in every thread.
It's just getting sad honestly.
Look at FFXI in the later years, it had content for everyone. We don't need a WoW clone.
Have you ever heard of something called context? As in: "in the context of Noctic's post it was pretty obvious to anyone who knew what the Templar's Falchion was that he was referring to it and the Verdant Shortbow since those are the only 2 items in the chest."
One post from Yoshida about how he views gear progression working in an MMO does not mean a "WoW" clone. First of all it says nothing about strictly vertical progression, it says nothing about all gear from the previous dungeon being made "useless" as this thread and your previous one suggests. It is merely a post about MMO design which be applied to all MMO's to an extent including FFXI.I just can't see how they're justified personally attacking me yet whatever I do is "trolling" to them because it's not what they want to hear.
This game OBVIOUSLY needs to have something to do for ALL PLAYERS to enjoy. It's an MMO and it makes money off people playing it, not having nothing to do. Just because some people are more "causal" than others and don't have the dungeon items or w/e they're mad about doesn't mean everyone has to wait for them to catch up.
I am so sick of this "hardcore" vs "casual" argument and it being brought up in every thread.
It's just getting sad honestly.
Look at FFXI in the later years, it had content for everyone. We don't need a WoW clone.
You are trolling because rather than responding to people's actual posts, and arguments you take things out of context for the purpose of provoking a reaction and refuse to have a legitimate discussion, on any topic (which is why your last thread on this topic was locked), you simply post the same thing over and over again without anything to back up your claims. The equivalent of a spoiled child plugging their ears and screaming to drown out anyone who disagrees with them.
At least that is why I had to put you on my ignore list, it's a waste of time responding to you since you clearly have made up your mind on the issue and no matter how much people offer you direct contradiction to your claims from the developers themselves you are going to keep up your crusade of ignorance.
Other than your posts being personally annoying though I don't really care since I certainly don't want this game to be easy-mode/a WoW clone/or casual focused. So as misinformed as I think you are, by all means keep it up.
Last edited by Murugan; 09-18-2011 at 04:40 PM.
...? What is with all the mad. Get over it. Stop crying.
I am so sick of hearing this. For the 100th time: IT DEVALUES THE GEAR. IT MAKES PUTTING FORTH THE EFFORT WORTHLESS.One post from Yoshida about how he views gear progression working in an MMO does not mean a "WoW" clone. First of all it says nothing about strictly vertical progression, it says nothing about all gear from the previous dungeon being made "useless" as this thread and your previous one suggests. It is merely a post about MMO design which be applied to all MMO's to an extent including FFXI.
Why can't it just continue to be the same for everyone?
Wow are you going to cry?You are trolling because rather than responding to people's actual posts, and arguments you take things out of context for the purpose of provoking a reaction and refuse to have a legitimate discussion, on any topic (which is why your last thread on this topic was locked), you simply post the same thing over and over again without anything to back up your claims. The equivalent of a spoiled child plugging their ears and screaming to drown out anyone who disagrees with them.
I keep posting the same thing and all I get back from people like you is how mad you are and how you want to be better then other people without trying.
I don't know who exactly you think you are but if you're not going to at least acknowledge someone's opinion why are you on a forum?
LOL. Now you're trolling me.At least that is why I had to put you on my ignore list, it's a waste of time responding to you since you clearly have made up your mind on the issue and no matter how much people offer you direct contradiction to your claims from the developers themselves you are going to keep up your crusade of ignorance.
1) Why are you writing this if you "ignored me"
2) I'm so happy I've upset you. It makes me feel good inside.
3) No one has given me any real answer as to why gear has to be devalued so quickly. Other then they're bad and want the same gear as everyone else without having to work for it.
You sure act like you want it to be easy mode.
relax fellas don't get this thread taken down keep it on topic. lets keep the polls going and let the votes and peoples thoughts on it do the talking.
i don't mind just give good content -3- and excite more and more... reward just goal but real thing is how fun to reach that goal not reward
btw lvl not max yet.. but i don't have anything to do in event now.. so just give more hard and pain team work secret thick anything i don't mind just make it fun 'w'
I like that gear will need to be continually upgraded. For those who don't, since I don't really want to read through the last 30 pages what would you prefer?
A. No new gear is added
B. New gear is added but is worse than that currently available.
Personally I don't see either of these as an incentive to continue playing.
Doing new content for the story is great but it takes a lot longer to make than it does to play, as you see when new missions are added, you can usually complete a couple of months development is a couple of days at most.
Making content that people will repeat needs to have a reason to repeat it to encourage people to continue to play, this means that there needs to a reward for doing so. If that reward is worthless to you, what is there to keep you playing?
If the gear was sweet looking, and had awesome stats, than I'm not comfortable with it becoming outdated withing 3-8 months time (my time estimate)
But if the gear is bland, bad stats, took no time to get. Then I'm okay with it becoming outdated very fast haha
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