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  1. #21
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    dank1's Avatar
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    Dank Evol
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkamite View Post
    Don't forget the amount to time it takes to start your system up if it's off, log in times, loading into the game, loading into the instance, etc. It doesn't take only 20-30 minutes a day. For some people, even 20-30 is a lot depending on the day.
    Then they dont deserve the eso, if I can't commit to something I dont deserve the credit for it
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    Life's a tease.

  2. #22
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I wish they would do it like this:

    First two weeks of patch:
    Old dungeons removed from expert roulette. New dungeons are the new expert roulette, 50% chance to get either one.

    Week 3 and on:
    Old dungeons added back in to expert roulette. 35% chance for each of the two new dungeons, 15% chance each for the old dungeons. Old dungeons yield same amount of esoterics as new dungeons via roulette.

    That way it would be weighted toward the new content starting with week 3 but would give you the old dungeons about a third of the time to fight burnout.
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  3. #23
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    I wish they would do it like this:

    First two weeks of patch:
    Old dungeons removed from expert roulette. New dungeons are the new expert roulette, 50% chance to get either one.

    Week 3 and on:
    Old dungeons added back in to expert roulette. 35% chance for each of the two new dungeons, 15% chance each for the old dungeons. Old dungeons yield same amount of esoterics as new dungeons via roulette.

    That way it would be weighted toward the new content starting with week 3 but would give you the old dungeons about a third of the time to fight burnout.
    Why don't you just queue for all 4 if you want to run them? Assuming you do the roulette once a day for 6 days, you'll only get the old dungeons once per week on average, so this is basically a waste.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Why don't you just queue for all 4 if you want to run them? Assuming you do the roulette once a day for 6 days, you'll only get the old dungeons once per week on average, so this is basically a waste.
    Because if I queued for all 4... I wouldn't get the roulette bonus? Obviously.
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  5. #25
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Those aren't included in the expert dungeons anymore. I won't be touching them anymore after that anyway, so i don't care
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  6. #26
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by dank1 View Post
    Then they dont deserve the eso, if I can't commit to something I dont deserve the credit for it
    That wasn't their argument at all... their argument is that it takes more than just 20-30 minutes to get run a dungeon if they're starting from a full log-out situation. Of course they aren't getting credit for the dungeon if they aren't there to run it, that's common sense. And noone in this entire thread is asking for 'credit without effort'. Well, maybe the original post, depends on how you read it. I think everyone has it pretty accurate in say he's wanting his cake and eat it, too.
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  7. #27
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    SchalaZeal's Avatar
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    Schala Zeal
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Those aren't included in the expert dungeons anymore. I won't be touching them anymore after that anyway, so i don't care
    Instead Neverreap and Fractal will get their new roulette bonus, and you'd be able to run both of them every day. So that if the new roulette gives 40+35 and the old gives 30+25 it would take 3 days of running both roulettes, then 1 day of running the new expert, or 6 of just the new one, provided no other eso source.
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  8. #28
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Its a lot easier to get eso from more sources then spamming expert. Frontlines roulette is a easy 40 eso every day, alex and alex savage as well 10 and 30 per turn.
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  9. #29
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    Schala Zeal
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Its a lot easier to get eso from more sources then spamming expert. Frontlines roulette is a easy 40 eso every day, alex and alex savage as well 10 and 30 per turn.
    That'll be more true with 3.1. 2 roulettes, Void Ark, exploratory, and maybe some from doing Vanu Vanu beast tribes. Not everyone is still doing Alex normal (I skipped straight to eso after completing A4) and not everyone has a static or want to do savage. The rest is pretty friendly to newbies. Also pvp, I can like it with friends, going alone is a chore.
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    Summoner first, Scholar second...but mainly crafter.

  10. #30
    Player Ercapote's Avatar
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    Sebaron Rivail
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Peple here fail to realize that these dungeons will be move to "LVL 60 DUNGEON ROULETTE



    So if none of you are aware...

    ALL level HARD ROULETTE are going to become

    LVL 50 DUNGEON ROULETTE

    ALL level EXPERT ROULETTE are going to become

    LVL 60 DUNGEON ROULETTE

    so basically...EXPERT will become all new dungeons per patch, and as patch goes LVL 60 ROULETTE will expand giving also lot's of esoterics to farm each day...

    seems like a really nice add and it will just mean that as patch goes new harder dungeons will come that will have a level increased higher than previews dungeons and all old dungeon will be just allocated with the already old non-relevant dungeons...easy as that... in short terms just means more eso for us per week.. IDK why everyone is bitching about this... HO! we get a coin flip roulette! so be it, that extra less dungeon will become in a better quality patch, with much more content than we got before since all those resources are getting put into something else...

    and think about this... I don't know how the new dungeons are but from what wee see on the previews they seem to have a far more higher quality from what we use to get before from the last dungeons... so to think...

    before we 3 "mediocre" new dungeons some where good i gotta say that but most of them where kinda lame with little to nothing new... but! now... hopefully we will 2 new dungeons but these 2 new dungeons will be far better, with more dedicate new features and "fun" content... because as before they where rushing to push 3 dungeons in 3 month now they have extra time to focus and create better content...
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