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  1. #31
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    7hurricane's Avatar
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    Tidal Tinglebottom
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    At the end of the day, it is not SE's problem how players obtain their esos. They provide a number of avenues for players to earn them:

    - Duty Roulette: Level 60 (patch 3.1)
    - Duty Roulette: Expert
    - Duty Roulette: Frontlines
    - Duty Roulette: Trials
    - Alexander (any normal or savage mode)
    - Seal Rock (Seize)
    - Treasure Maps
    - Diadem (patch 3.1)

    I'm sure there are others, but these are the ones off the top of my head. SE has created a variety of content that takes varying levels of skill and time, and all are viable ways to earn esos. Having provided all of these options, SE is unlikely to do more given that 3.1 follows the tome model set out by every major patch since ARR launched years ago.

    Players are responsible for managing their own time--it is not the fault of the developer when so many options are available.
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  2. #32
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    i don't personally recall SE taking old dungeons and lowering the rewards infact they increased law rewards lowered eso. << again don't ever recall this oin perivious stuff. Anyone have links or anyth9ing to prove they did??
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  3. #33
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    Sebaron Rivail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    i don't personally recall SE taking old dungeons and lowering the rewards infact they increased law rewards lowered eso. << again don't ever recall this oin perivious stuff. Anyone have links or anyth9ing to prove they did??
    you can go ahead a check on LODESTONE on the "PATCH NOTES" section, there you can see a list of every patch since 2.0 and check yourself that they have done this since the day you where born...."EVERY" "SINGLE" "DUNGEON"
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  4. #34
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    Karse Farrence
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baci View Post
    Why do people grind neverreap/fractal for esos? o.O
    5x Expert roulette and youre done
    Yup and probably with 2 Eso roulettes a day I guess we will cap even faster than before unless they rise the cap ^^;
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  5. #35
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    Instead Neverreap and Fractal will get their new roulette bonus, and you'd be able to run both of them every day. So that if the new roulette gives 40+35 and the old gives 30+25 it would take 3 days of running both roulettes, then 1 day of running the new expert, or 6 of just the new one, provided no other eso source.
    I would quite literally rather stab myself in the eye with a rusty fork than do those two dungeons again.
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  6. #36
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    Ehrzeth Lahr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    i don't personally recall SE taking old dungeons and lowering the rewards infact they increased law rewards lowered eso. << again don't ever recall this oin perivious stuff. Anyone have links or anyth9ing to prove they did??
    I remembered they changed tome amounts oddly in one of the patches and, well, I found this. Taken from the 2.3 patch notes. So yes they have done this before.


    Though I don't quite understand the OP's complaint. I mean, how often do people do the older dungeons if they need to cap Tomestones over the new ones.
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    Last edited by Ehr; 11-09-2015 at 12:43 PM.

  7. #37
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    They've also done more than just reduce tomestone rewards. The in-dungeon rewards were often downgraded as well. They haven't been as apt to doing that lately, but if they do I wouldn't be surprised.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehr View Post
    I remembered they changed tome amounts oddly in one of the patches and, well, I found this. Taken from the 2.3 patch notes. So yes they have done this before.


    Though I don't quite understand the OP's complaint. I mean, how often do people do the older dungeons if they need to cap Tomestones over the new ones.
    tyty i was asking cuz i don't recall lol. I'm not complaining just literally don't remember. I also don't have good access to lodestone.

    and ppl run them if they are new.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ercapote View Post
    you can go ahead a check on LODESTONE on the "PATCH NOTES" section, there you can see a list of every patch since 2.0 and check yourself that they have done this since the day you where born...."EVERY" "SINGLE" "DUNGEON"
    no need to be a dip..... -_-;; i was asking a question, not complaining.
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  10. #40
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    new dungeons unless you like the old ones?
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