I don't want to tank dungeons anymore...

[Fenral]

People still seem to be missing the "polite communication" aspect. Three complete assholes demanding you big pull don't deserve big pulls, especially if you can tell they're a 3/4 premade who didn't bring their own tank. If someone asks politely, and you're comfortable with it, no harm in changing your pace. If someone asks politely and you aren't, say as much. Even if the majority wants them, the tank's consent is always required for big pulls. Always. I'm honestly unsure why people seem unable to comprehend this.

[MistakeNot]

So basically you're forcing the situation to only have two solutions: my way, or votekick me.

Top notch teamwork.

Not quite. If people want me to go slower I will do so. And they are free to leave instead of votekicking, if they prefer that.
But when I tank I will NOT go any faster than I feel comfortable with. Not 'my way' so much as setting an upper limit to the speed. People who cannot handle that are not people I would want to play with anyway.

[Malevicton]

Not quite. If people want me to go slower I will do so. And they are free to leave instead of votekicking, if they prefer that. Not 'my way' so much as setting an upper limit to the speed.

So... your way. But with minor semantic differences. But at the end of the day, if they don't wanna play how you like, then it comes down to votekick or just acquiesce to what you want to do, because you'll refuse to accommodate theirs.

People who cannot handle that are not people I would want to play with anyway.

You're playing with strangers. If you want to only play with like-minded people, there's a tool for that, and it's not called duty finder.

[LordLonghammer]

I personally think tanks that have this view are full of themselves, who cares who pulls? Throw 1 flash, overpower, or unleash and it comes right to you who cares who pulls the thing. Think about how frustrating it is as a dps that can't maintain their stacks throughout the instance because the tank might be crawling along so the dps can't perform up to the level the would like to for the party. If someone pulls over you look 'em in the eye, slap the mob across the face, and assert your dominance as a tank. Don't sit there and pout about how important you think you are.

[Evantide]

What i've been seeing is: dungeon starts, and the healer hits sprint and runs in to pull without buffing the group.

Really there is no logic behind this because no tank will use sprint to catch up and then have no tp to use abilities. Granted a drk doesn't rely on tp as much but still this will always end up with a wipe.

[Sicno]

I personally think tanks that have this view are full of themselves, who cares who pulls? Throw 1 flash, overpower, or unleash and it comes right to you who cares who pulls the thing. Think about how frustrating it is as a dps that can't maintain their stacks throughout the instance because the tank might be crawling along so the dps can't perform up to the level the would like to for the party. If someone pulls over you look 'em in the eye, slap the mob across the face, and assert your dominance as a tank. Don't sit there and pout about how important you think you are.

They mess up the tank's scheme for doing the pulls. It's not only a matter of "when" but also of "how". Also, what happens when a tank dies? the dps and healer die next. And as far as I know a dead dps deals no damage. So don't go deciding for the tank what he/she can handle.

Also people tend to confuse "speedruns" with "pulling everything". Take Neverreap for instance. I find it a good balance of fast and safe to isolate both packs of 2 bees then pull the tree and take it to the end of the room with the other trash, meanwhile if I mixed other stuff with bees you're risking having multiple final stings and causing a wipe, which is a time loss. Sure, there's a chance that you'll kill everything before the final stings, but why risk a wipe? it's not that much of a time gain.

[Ashkendor]

Think about how frustrating it is as a dps that can't maintain their stacks throughout the instance because the tank might be crawling along so the dps can't perform up to the level the would like to for the party.

Think about how frustrating it is as a tank to run out of cooldowns/MP/TP (or a healer to run out of MP) because DPS that think their stacks are the most important thing in the dungeon keep pulling when the rest of the party isn't ready or keep bringing extra crap to a tank that's already got mobs. If I pause in a dungeon, it's because I'm waiting for someone to recover a necessary resource.

[Noxifer]

So... your way. But with minor semantic differences. But at the end of the day, if they don't wanna play how you like, then it comes down to votekick or just acquiesce to what you want to do, because you'll refuse to accommodate theirs.

It's not always a matter of want, though. MistakeNot isn't saying s/he's going slowly, just that s/he's not going to be forced to go faster than the pace s/he is comfortable tanking. Saying that equals "my way or the highway" is the same as saying to the healer that because they don't want speedruns because they can't keep up, they're forcing others to play their way or get lost.
Yes, in a way it is, but it's a matter of "this is doable" vs "this is not doable". If a tank pulls faster than s/he can handle, you're heading for a wipe. Certainly, many tanks are cautious and don't necessarily know how much they can handle, but forcing said tank to pull faster by running ahead instead of asking is not the right way to push them to stretch their limits ^^;

[WinterLuna]

If you're pulling at a normal pace then of course the DPS or healer shouldn't be pulling for you and you should kick them. However if you're going at snail pace, I can understand why people get impatient.

I play all jobs on FF so I understand where you're coming from when others pull. At the same time, its annoying as hell for a healer when tanks take all the time in the world, just because they're the tank. I've had some tanks who go AFK for the stupidest reasons and expect everyone else just to wait for them and it's extremely selfish and rude. Not aiming this at you btw - just my opinion on pulls.

[HalfLegend]

Some people seems to assume that I was forcing my speed on the others, which was not the case. My frustration came from the fact that I would have made the advancement faster if I could have time to judge the group itself but it didn't happened. I aggroed the first 2 mob from the dungeon and suddenly the healer goes on a sprint and gets all the others without warning. He almost died too because I wasn't facing them with the camera at the moment it happened.

Guess who would have been blamed... :/