Savage Clear rate being lower the Devs expected, good or a bad thing?

[Velhart]

Thank you for showing us the exact type of player who is ruining the endgame community. Have fun with your parsers and stuff and your 'gid gud' attitude (no idea where that even came from.. WoW? GW2? idk.)

Are you seriously implying that this game should not have content that tests the limits of your ability to perform your job and team coordination?

[rappa]

What are you talking? Is my attitude bad? I could sound elitist but i talk with knowledge.
am I a bad guy for using a parser and stuff?

I hope if you are stuck in a game, won't use a guide or a cheat. You will become bad guy with "stuffs"

[melisande]

Are you seriously implying that this game should not have content that tests the limits of your ability to perform your job and team coordination?

uh... lol... please cite where i said that?

[melisande]

What are you talking? Is my attitude bad? I could sound elitist but i talk with knowledge.
am I a bad guy for using a parser and stuff?

I hope if you are stuck in a game, won't use a guide or a cheat. You will become bad guy with "stuffs"

Parsers are against the TOS and are a crutch because ACT has triggers (which im sure you use as well) so that you can be notified when a boss is using abilities (regen before quarantine, legs stunning). Which isn't even what this conversation is about, but every post you make you love to bring up parse numbers and this and that like it matters, and it doesn't.

[Velhart]

uh... lol... please cite where i said that?

Imply means not directly saying what you actually mean. You can call people out for being elitist if you like, but the way you present your arguments makes it the other extreme.

[Ladon]

Oh boy. Here come all the A4S clear people to tell everyone to git good while they couldn't even produce a legit A4S clear video.

[melisande]

Imply means not directly saying what you actually mean. You can call people out for being elitist if you like, but the way you present your arguments makes it the other extreme.

Excuse me, but I have been playing since 1.0, without the use of third party tools. I guess that makes me bad LOL. Also - please quote where i 'called someone out for being an elitist' - i was more calling him out for posting parser information followed with 'git gud'. I dont understand where this attitude came from - it was not around in the 1.0 days. Having cleared all content in 1.0 (and 2.0) - for you to say i am implying "... that this game should not have content that tests the limits of your ability to perform your job and team coordination?" is simply wrong.

[rappa]

Parsers are against the TOS and are a crutch because ACT has triggers (which im sure you use as well) so that you can be notified when a boss is using abilities (regen before quarantine, legs stunning). Which isn't even what this conversation is about, but every post you make you love to bring up parse numbers and this and that like it matters, and it doesn't.

Parser is a tool and let players control raid management. Could be against the TOS but nobody was banned for use parser. You could watch Elysium server first and the whm is using triggers and a parser.

It's a sorrow as player that developers create a raid with dps and gearchecks but without any messure can't determine how is going.

Oh boy. Here come all the A4S clear people to tell everyone to git good while they couldn't even produce a legit A4S clear video.

I pray you didn't kill ADS in Turn 2 with "enrage mode".

And i laugh how a guy is salty declaring a strat is not legit, when own developers determined the strat was right.

As i said, we are stubborn, blame others players or we say the killed or cheated a fight because they killed before us.

[melisande]

Parser is a tool and let players control raid management. Could be against the TOS but nobody was banned for use parser. You could watch Elysium server first and the whm is using triggers and a parser.

It's a sorrow as player that developers create a raid with dps and gearchecks but without any messure can't determine how is going.

And for you to deny that those triggers are a crutch is a fallacy. Enjoy living in your third party gung-ho world, that came from WoW, GW2, or something of the like because FF has discouraged the use of any third party, and the devs left out a parser for a reason.

And NO, I killed ADS long before people were even exploiting the enrage strategy. Thanks for the assumption though. I still feel bad you openly admit to using triggers, talk about a bad player. Ever heard of Focus Target?

[Kuwagami]

Oh boy. Here come all the A4S clear people to tell everyone to git good while they couldn't even produce a legit A4S clear video.

sadly, SE recognized the cheese as a legit clear. As far as I know, only one JP team got the originally intended clear (Elysium got close but had to finish the last bomb set with the cheese. They definitively killed all the dolls though, it was just a matter of a few seconds. Dunno if they did it again the original way after that or just followed the cheese, as it is way easier to do it that way).

As i said, we are stubborn, blame others players or we say the killed or cheated a fight because they killed before us.

You can't deny nearly all of the AS4 clears have cheated the fight. None of you did it the intended way.

You still have legit clears, as the devs acknowledged them, but don't go as far as saying they weren't cheated through.

And for you to deny that those triggers are a crutch is a fallacy. Enjoy living in your third party gung-ho world, that came from WoW, GW2, or something of the like because FF has discouraged the use of any third party, and the devs left out a parser for a reason.

So people using pens, Voice chats and chronometers are also bad players because reasons ? The ability callers just ease the process.

Just so you know, 3rd party apps are banned as a whole because the devs didn't want to put in an exhaustive list of banned applications, as this list would be ever changing.

By your logic, any sort of voice chat is also a 3rd party app ban-worthy. Get real.

To develop a bit : 3rd party app aren't anything more than tools that the game refuses/can't to provide (parser, multiple focus bars, easy way to communicate while fighting... etc). It's not because some players are stupid enough to misuse/abuse them that the tools are stupid.