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    Blessedbythesun's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
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    You're talking about endgame raiding for players that make up a very small percentage of the population. The type of content that could actually hinge on healer DPS because Alexander savage has been a massive DPS to begin with. If a designated healer isn't DPSing in savage, something is wrong. But again, that is strictly endgame raiding, which currently makes up 4 instances out of majority of the current content. Your point is irrelevant because the majority of the population of the game aren't playing the limited content that pushes them to play more methodically.
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    Kabz Il
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedbythesun View Post
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    But if you actually read my post you can see I'm responding to someone who is describing the current 'meta'. The current meta only applies to the 4 instances making up said endgame raiding, and so the point is very much so relevant. I know he then says Savage is different, but I think he's confusing himself because that's what the meta is. All other content is just a repeat of dungeons and other content that even fairies can solo heal.
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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedbythesun View Post
    You're talking about endgame raiding for players that make up a very small percentage of the population. The type of content that could actually hinge on healer DPS because Alexander savage has been a massive DPS to begin with. If a designated healer isn't DPSing in savage, something is wrong. But again, that is strictly endgame raiding, which currently makes up 4 instances out of majority of the current content. Your point is irrelevant because the majority of the population of the game aren't playing the limited content that pushes them to play more methodically.
    Here's the thing though - it's not just Savage. I was solo healing some Ravana runs last night to get weapon for peoples alts and just for fun, and even though I'm a SMN main with healer alts, my 190 SCH was able to add 200 dps while solo healing. And Admittedly, I am not a very good healer. If I was a better player, I am sure I could have done more. And what if a group was doing that with 2 healers...so much time when not healing is needed. When I run 4man dungeons for dailys - I generally do like 500 dps over the whole dungeon. And if I wasn't - I'd be standing there twiddling my thumbs half the time doing nothing. I actually don't know how healers don't dps in dungeons - they must be drinking coffee and reading the news or watching a movie as they are playing.

    The times when a healer shouldn't be trying to help dps are extremely limited - maybe while actually leveling with a poorly played or undergeared tank. But that's about it. The vast majority of the content simply doesn't have enough needed healing uptime to make dpsing not pretty much required/beneficial/should be doing it depending on your preferred phrasing for such.

    I don't understand why people don't think that all players should be trying to use use their entire skillsets to be the best teammates they can be. I think that's fair to require of your teammates and commit to yourself.

    There are a lot of games where healers can't dps while healing, or their damage is so low as to be pointless to try and do so. But FFXIV just isn't one of them. I feel like a lot of players are attempting to take their experience from other games or their personal preference of how they like to play and state it as a reality in FFXIV, when it just simply isn't the case here.
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    Last edited by Sidra; 11-05-2015 at 07:43 AM.