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  1. #11
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    In fact every patch had two hard mode dungeons added.
    Actually, the trend hasn't been two Hard dungeons but rather a Hard dungeon and an entirely new Expert dungeon. Further, every Trial after Praetorium has been a Hard trial with further revisits to the Trials being labeled as Extreme. The original three primals of Ifrit, Titan and Garuda are exceptions because of their early appearance during the main story. Heavensward added the Trials of both beastmen in their Hard and Extreme forms so the only one left is... wait, no, goblins have Alexander and he's a full blown raid. Also with a harder mode in Savage. There's no foundation for another Hard trial yet beyond giving the only other trial not possessing an Extreme mode an... Extreme mode, Knights of the Round. So far nothing in this rather large patch is lacking compared to past patches.
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    Last edited by Gilraen; 11-04-2015 at 07:45 AM.

  2. #12
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    Warren Slassi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Makes sense I guess. Although 2.1 gave us one dungeon, two hard mode dungeons. one raid, one normal trial and four extreme trials. Granted all that is a little extreme.
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    keep in mind the 4 trials had already existed, and i think they only added the ex modes for those because alot of requests, im not sure if SE had intentions of adding them originally. but main point, they had something existing to do it with. comparing it to 2.1 is a bad idea tbh
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  3. #13
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    Aoxaviar Issacs
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    I think if you are going to be doing all of the content coming in 3.1, then it is massive on the size of being an expansion. However, if your looking for story and more end game (raiding/fighting) only content, then this one could be a small patch like every other patch has been since the game first came out.
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  4. #14
    everything on this patch rests on the exploration missions.

    story trials are one and done and offer no replayability. we have an Ex Trial that's a step up from Ravana EX, there's no reason this has to be an EX version of whatever is in the new story. i kind of like them separate. i want a Chrysalis EX too.

    whether Arboretum is part of the storyline or not is also mostly irrelevant. it's going to be part of Expert spam either way. the Library is part of the 3.0 story, Brayflox Normal was part of the original story and both of them seemed completely tacked on. if they can't integrate them into the story properly like Vault and Aery, they should just leave it out.
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  5. #15
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    We are getting SKYNAMIS!!!!!
    *Chokes on Tea*
    Hahahaha, I wish.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    The three tiers of Airship Exploration are replacing one expert level dungeon. They decreased the number of dungeons in order to free up resources so that they could create a wider variety of content.

    Unknown, but possible. Battle on the Big Bridge came pretty much out of the blue during the release of 2.2.


    Which was normal. Snowcloak and Keeper of the Lake were the only dungeons among the 15 2.X dungeons required for the post-50 main story.
    1. Content variety is always welcome. I figured something like this was behind it. It all comes down to what each team is doing I guess. 2.1 added pvp and housing while 2.4 added rogues and ninjas. However none of those are group PVE contents. It would be useful to have a list of dev teams and their responsobilities as some people accuse the Hildibrand questline with taking away resources from raid content.
    2. Yeah it did. I only mentioned Nabriales cause it ended the main scenario so it fits this situation if there really is a mistery trial.
    3. True I just mentioned it because if there is no mistery trial and the Arboretum is a side story, this will be the only main scenario chapter without any sort of group content.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Actually, the trend hasn't been two Hard dungeons
    Actually it really has been. I checked the patch notes of every major patch. All of them came with a pair of hard mode dungeons and sometimes with a new dungeon as well. Airship explorations are a pretty good alternative though as it is something entirely new.
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  7. #17
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    I have very little hope for the airship missions.

    I don't like 'random' *or* "reliant on being in the airship clique".

    Our ships, for example,are used for gathering crafting materials. Nothing more. They won't be *available* for airship exploration.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I have very little hope for the airship missions.

    I don't like 'random' *or* "reliant on being in the airship clique".

    Our ships, for example,are used for gathering crafting materials. Nothing more. They won't be *available* for airship exploration.
    The way I understand you can gather materials on exploration missions as well. Wouldn't be surprised if there were special crafting mats on exp missions that cant be obtained any other way.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    We are getting SKYNAMIS!!!!!
    This is honestly being looked at as much smaller than it actually is by players. The potential for this content is REALLY high. What we get in 3.1 is, at worst, a taste of what can be. Just as the CT content got progressively better and more enjoyable, Skynamis is likely going to see the same sort of improving development. The potential for success with this one is far greater than The Hunt, but given how The Hunt ended up, the disappointment is comparatively greater as well if it fails. They really do just need to take Dynamis and go with it. Add to it, like with the gathering content that's supposed to be part of the area, but don't dumb it down much. Ideally they'd avoid making a boring half-ass version of it in the process, which is where the greater disappointment would come.
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  10. #20
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    It wont be as big as you think it is, no. No patch in any game ever is as big as the people who overhype everything think is, this will be proven as long as one person bitches about it cause at that point the patch didnt live up to at least one persons hype.
    In all seriousness asking a question like this is completely subjective because cause everyone has different standards but more often than not, those who ask "WIL DIS BEE DA BEST PATHC EVSR GUISE??!??!" people are also the first to complain every.single.time.
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    Life's a tease.

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