If you could kill off one of the scions...

[FJerome]

If Minfilia returs better she accept her fail as leader and makes Alphinau the new antecedent.

She can't, it's not something she can just stop being by her own choice. Antecedent is a pretty literal title that refers to how she was the first known to be chosen by Hydaelyn to hear the Echo, Livia even calls her the Scions' High Priestess.

[Emmanellain]

If I had to see anyone go it would be Minfillia, I know she's not going nowhere since the dev team adore her ( and some of her fanbase in JP )

But man, that woman has pretty much proven herself unsuited for leadership the second their hideout got infiltrated a SECOND time and Moenbryda died. How can anyone in their right mind think they're still suited for leadership if their enemy literally waltzes in killing off their members a second time.. If she does return ( which i know she will...) I hope she'll resign from her post and spend some time growing or just basically stick to the background. Because she has lost every ounce of respect from my part, we did everything by ourselves in 3.0, and tbh it's been way more enjoyable without her.

That and her voice and personality makes me cringe

[MilesSaintboroguh]

How exactly was it her fault that an Ascian got in? What could someone who wasn't the WOL do against such a being?

[Belhi]

Oh come on. If we are really going to say Minfilia is unsuited for leadership for the two times the HQ was infiltrated then no one in the Scions is suitable for leadership. Ascians go were they please and save for Minfilia and the WoL, no one can even see them without them letting them.

I get she is unpopular but lets actually be reasonable in the standard we are holding her to.

[Frederick22]

She can't, it's not something she can just stop being by her own choice. Antecedent is a pretty literal title that refers to how she was the first known to be chosen by Hydaelyn to hear the Echo, Livia even calls her the Scions' High Priestess.

what part of the game says that? I have never hear such a thing. All I know is that they were 2 groups ( back on 1,0 ) and they mixed toghether, and Minfilia become its leader. There nothing related beacuse she had the echo as far as I know.

[FJerome]

what part of the game says that? I have never hear such a thing. All I know is that they were 2 groups ( back on 1,0 ) and they mixed toghether, and Minfilia become its leader. There nothing related beacuse she had the echo as far as I know.

Path of the Twelve was a group of Echo-users who thought the power was literally a gift from the gods, hence the group name, and had banded together to understand it better (1.0 introduction cut-scene to it). Minfilia already held the title of Antecedent back then, too, and brought it with her when the group merged with the Circle of Knowing to form the Scions.

[MicahZerrshia]

I don't know why people dislike Minfilia so. I have liked her since we first met back in version 1. Same with all the Scions, minus Papalymo cause, well, he's a condescending jerk.

Now those little twin brats, they really need to go. And if you want to oust Min for bad leadership why on earth would you want to put Alphinaud in charge in her stead. He was by far a larger fail than any other leader. Min had loyalty among her people at least. Alphinaud basically organized the traitors. I just cannot stand the kid. I don't even want to hear his voice in cs. Just makes me want to punch the screen when he's on it.

[Frederick22]

Path of the Twelve was a group of Echo-users who thought the power was literally a gift from the gods, hence the group name, and had banded together to understand it better (1.0 introduction cut-scene to it). Minfilia already held the title of Antecedent back then, too, and brought it with her when the group merged with the Circle of Knowing to form the Scions.

Im confused, the asnwer is pretty much in there. "That was back on 1.0" I dont know if antecedent is just a title for being the leader of the scions or not. Maybe that title has nothing to do with being the leader of the Scions to begin with.

Minfilia was then the laeder of this group that had the echo too, yes. After that she and the circle of knowing from the Scions. It was desdided that she should be the leader of the Scions but no beacause she was "the first echo user", I dont know why you said that. Why she become leader of the first group were totaly different reasons of why she was on the charge of leader again. Maybe beacuse Luisoix died and she was repected by the echo users the reasons why it was desided to become the leader of the Scions.

You said she didnt have choise, maybe not 1.0 im not sure, but on 2.0 she had, but she fail. One thing is taking care of some ppl with echo and orther thing is being the leader of a group with a job in killing primals and interfier on the state of affairs of the city states.

You are mistaken the events of 1.0 and 2.0. Its very clear the differences.

[FJerome]

You are mistaken the events of 1.0 and 2.0. Its very clear the differences.

Okay, my initial response was to your comment that she should let Alphinaud become Antecedent - all I'm saying is she can't because Antecedent is a title that has nothing to do with leadership of the Scions. She's had it since she led the Path of the Twelve, it means "to go before", and she has it because she's the first known holder of the Echo.

[Frederick22]

Okay, my initial response was to your comment that she should let Alphinaud become Antecedent - all I'm saying is she can't because Antecedent is a title that has nothing to do with leadership of the Scions. She's had it since she led the Path of the Twelve, it means "to go before", and she has it because she's the first known holder of the Echo.

Ok, I didnt know this, But you should explain bit better next time.
So correcting myself, Alphinau should become the new leader of the Scions.