To all the flames on primal datacenter...

[HylianBebop]

flames on primal is trash over all to me...and i have 1949 games played atm to compare my own personal stats and reviews and play styles withinin all 3 gcs.. there are very few matches flames ever win. and only time i've ever been impressed is when the premade come around..

Willing to concede that on the Flames end, I was going in mostly with a pre-made group, so up to 8 of us (sometimes more) were coordinated and had some skill to execute our plans. Though lately, I've noticed Flames are having a bit of trouble, and Badders have suddenly improved a bit (more wins, but not a drastic increase).

[HylianBebop]

When I lose a couple of games, it ends up being Adder winning lately. I enjoy seeing Korra rage when I mention this to him. Korra, at least you don't get kicked out of Frontline because you were in the wrong area.

Yea that kind of stinks about that. They didn't kick me out when I was searching for you in that one match and died like 4 times trying to do it. I also didn't get kicked when I ignored healing for a few mins to find a melee from an opposing GC in order to record this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjHnkeyAW2c

I'm at 82/100 wins now, so getting close to being able to leave Adders soon. Will hit 50 with Mael but will settle with Flames because our server's most active PVP LS is Flames focused and it's more fun playing with people you know. But being in Adders has been humbling, if not extremely frustrating.

BTW, I moved my alt to Aether, and holy heck Flames...the queues are so bad there.

[reefer69]

Willing to concede that on the Flames end, I was going in mostly with a pre-made group, so up to 8 of us (sometimes more) were coordinated and had some skill to execute our plans. Though lately, I've noticed Flames are having a bit of trouble, and Badders have suddenly improved a bit (more wins, but not a drastic increase).

ah np atleast your honest.. and well since frontlines mael has always been better, followed by adders then flames.. i havent seen much change in this order.and i have played with all 3 gc's, so far my stay at mael was average and i enjoy adders playstyle more. but for me the win rates about the same lol.
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[Februs]

since frontlines mael has always been better, followed by adders then flames.. i havent seen much change in this order.and i have played with all 3 gc's, so far my stay at mael was average and i enjoy adders playstyle more. but for me the win rates about the same lol.
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I'm not so sure about this lol. I remember back when FL first came out, Flames and Mael were the top two GC in my server. We were constantly battling for the position of first. There were days that it got so bad that Adders might as well not have even been in the matches. It stayed like that for a little while, but then the great migration happened. Suddenly, people left right and center were swapping to Mael.

It was brought on by GC restrictions. People wanted to play together with their friends and started swapping to whichever GC they thought had the better win rate. I remember this because a bunch of people I knew tried to get me in on it so that we could all que together. Almost my entire FC swapped to Mael (a lot of them were Adders before), mostly at the request of our dumb leader at the time, a bunch of the LS people I knew swapped... it was everywhere. I think the only reason it really leveled out a little was because they came out with the ADS mount achievement, and people found out that they had to get 200 wins with one GC. That came too late, though. Damage was done.

The Flames win record went down the hole, and Adders became a relevant GC again, skirting back into the fights by riding on Mael's coat tails, and the win rates started to get more evenly split across the three GC's. The most lasting effect has been Mael's que times. Because Mael became dramatically overpopulated, the que time for that GC shot up a ton. I'd get into 2-4 matches for every one match my FCmates got into, and it's pretty much stayed that way. I don't think there's been a single time that Mael's que rate has recovered since the migration happened.

[TheWaywardWind]

ah np atleast your honest.. and well since frontlines mael has always been better, followed by adders then flames.. i havent seen much change in this order.and i have played with all 3 gc's, so far my stay at mael was average and i enjoy adders playstyle more. but for me the win rates about the same lol.
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This is wrong. Mael went through a period of doing well, to flat out sucking, to becoming what my FC used to call 'the eternal second,' simply because it seemed like no matter what happened between the Flames and the Adders, Mael would always come up second.

Adders and Flames would either switch off from first and last for a while, or one of them would stay in first for a long time.

In Seize, Adders are just plain bad. Mael and Flames are about the same, but there are instances where they both have no idea what they're doing.