To all the flames on primal datacenter...

[TheWaywardWind]

Upon further playing and keeping an eye out for this sort of behavior, I can firmly say now that the Adders have some personal vendetta against the Flames.

Each and every game I've played recently, they've chased us around the board and seek to sandwich us with Mael, even if we don't have a single node.

Shit really needs to stop.

[Dimitrii]

Upon further playing and keeping an eye out for this sort of behavior, I can firmly say now that the Adders have some personal vendetta against the Flames.

Each and every game I've played recently, they've chased us around the board and seek to sandwich us with Mael, even if we don't have a single node.

Shit really needs to stop.

Something.... something... three way battles.... something... something.... laughable conspiracy theories.

What really needs to stop is this thread >.>
Flames have also nonsensically sandwiched Maelstrom as recently as last night in multiple matches, even though we were typically in second behind adders, resulting in maelstrom versions of yourself claiming some intricate flame/adder conspiracy and earning the ire of the more logically thinking members of the alliances who would quickly tell em to stfu and stop looking for excuses for losses.

[TheWaywardWind]

Something.... something... three way battles.... something... something.... laughable conspiracy theories.

What really needs to stop is this thread >.>
Flames have also nonsensically sandwiched Maelstrom as recently as last night in multiple matches, even though we were typically in second behind adders, resulting in maelstrom versions of yourself claiming some intricate flame/adder conspiracy and earning the ire of the more logically thinking members of the alliances who would quickly tell em to stfu and stop looking for excuses for losses.

I usually do my best to help lead the Flames and don't normally make up excuses for losing, so you can save the condescending sanctimonious crap for some else, thanks.

However, while it is not something that may take place all the time, denying that there are instances where one of the GCs go "Eh, fuck it, screw this particular GC over for fun" is simply idiotic and wishful thinking.

[HylianBebop]

flames on primal is trash over all to me...and i have 1949 games played atm to compare my own personal stats and reviews and play styles withinin all 3 gcs.. there are very few matches flames ever win. and only time i've ever been impressed is when the premade come around..

Willing to concede that on the Flames end, I was going in mostly with a pre-made group, so up to 8 of us (sometimes more) were coordinated and had some skill to execute our plans. Though lately, I've noticed Flames are having a bit of trouble, and Badders have suddenly improved a bit (more wins, but not a drastic increase).

[HylianBebop]

When I lose a couple of games, it ends up being Adder winning lately. I enjoy seeing Korra rage when I mention this to him. Korra, at least you don't get kicked out of Frontline because you were in the wrong area.

Yea that kind of stinks about that. They didn't kick me out when I was searching for you in that one match and died like 4 times trying to do it. I also didn't get kicked when I ignored healing for a few mins to find a melee from an opposing GC in order to record this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjHnkeyAW2c

I'm at 82/100 wins now, so getting close to being able to leave Adders soon. Will hit 50 with Mael but will settle with Flames because our server's most active PVP LS is Flames focused and it's more fun playing with people you know. But being in Adders has been humbling, if not extremely frustrating.

BTW, I moved my alt to Aether, and holy heck Flames...the queues are so bad there.

[Chill_Ghost]

Which GC has the quickest queue times? I enjoy doing pvp but I work at night and sleep during the day except during my off days. That means I only have 2 days to actually play and I usually only have 3 hours of prime time to get in. I'm currently in Maelstrom and I have like 1 hour queues. I wouldn't care about being on the losing team since it feels like we are all pretty balanced. I just want to play more

[HylianBebop]

Which GC has the quickest queue times? I enjoy doing pvp but I work at night and sleep during the day except during my off days. That means I only have 2 days to actually play and I usually only have 3 hours of prime time to get in. I'm currently in Maelstrom and I have like 1 hour queues. I wouldn't care about being on the losing team since it feels like we are all pretty balanced. I just want to play more

Flames easily have the fastest queue time in the primal cluster. You will level up the fastest with them, too, if you want that pvp gear for glamour.

[reefer69]

Willing to concede that on the Flames end, I was going in mostly with a pre-made group, so up to 8 of us (sometimes more) were coordinated and had some skill to execute our plans. Though lately, I've noticed Flames are having a bit of trouble, and Badders have suddenly improved a bit (more wins, but not a drastic increase).

ah np atleast your honest.. and well since frontlines mael has always been better, followed by adders then flames.. i havent seen much change in this order.and i have played with all 3 gc's, so far my stay at mael was average and i enjoy adders playstyle more. but for me the win rates about the same lol.
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[Evya]

What exactly did Mael offer you to get you to help them win this much? Are Adders allowed to counteroffer? I'm seeing a very obvious pattern of every game that gets out of the flames reach they just bum rush adders spawn and ignore mael when they are up 300 points with three spawns. It's basically every game when flames are in last. I'm just curious how this win trading came about, and if we can maybe get you to be ours goons for a weekend or something. This is exactly why gc's need to be removed, and 1v1v1 was a bad idea from the start. 1v1v1 just turns into cutthroat 2v1 and im pretty tired of 2v1. I swear im going to start taping my matches in the hopes of actually seeing flames attack whoever is in the lead once.

It's not because of win trading. It's because we hate you.

[Februs]

since frontlines mael has always been better, followed by adders then flames.. i havent seen much change in this order.and i have played with all 3 gc's, so far my stay at mael was average and i enjoy adders playstyle more. but for me the win rates about the same lol.
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I'm not so sure about this lol. I remember back when FL first came out, Flames and Mael were the top two GC in my server. We were constantly battling for the position of first. There were days that it got so bad that Adders might as well not have even been in the matches. It stayed like that for a little while, but then the great migration happened. Suddenly, people left right and center were swapping to Mael.

It was brought on by GC restrictions. People wanted to play together with their friends and started swapping to whichever GC they thought had the better win rate. I remember this because a bunch of people I knew tried to get me in on it so that we could all que together. Almost my entire FC swapped to Mael (a lot of them were Adders before), mostly at the request of our dumb leader at the time, a bunch of the LS people I knew swapped... it was everywhere. I think the only reason it really leveled out a little was because they came out with the ADS mount achievement, and people found out that they had to get 200 wins with one GC. That came too late, though. Damage was done.

The Flames win record went down the hole, and Adders became a relevant GC again, skirting back into the fights by riding on Mael's coat tails, and the win rates started to get more evenly split across the three GC's. The most lasting effect has been Mael's que times. Because Mael became dramatically overpopulated, the que time for that GC shot up a ton. I'd get into 2-4 matches for every one match my FCmates got into, and it's pretty much stayed that way. I don't think there's been a single time that Mael's que rate has recovered since the migration happened.