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    Anavi Anael
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    I've had my fair share of people who refuse to pull their own weight for whatever reason (or otherwise intentionally fail at their job), but I've also seen a fair amount of people that go "well I don't want to put too much effort, they're dying and it's easy".
    I'll add another to this: hardware malfunctions. One time in fractal, we had a scholar who was extremely slow on heals, and when DPSing only used Broil. We wiped once at the second boss, and another time at the last boss because he didn't use Leeches on the bombs. We mentioned, "hey man, you gotta remember to get the bombs off," to which he replied, "Yeah, my mouse isn't working well, so I'm having a hard time targeting people." When asked why he'd flag for an expert when his mouse wasn't working, "I'm not waiting around to start gearing up."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    I'll add another to this: hardware malfunctions. One time in fractal, we had a scholar who was extremely slow on heals, and when DPSing only used Broil. We wiped once at the second boss, and another time at the last boss because he didn't use Leeches on the bombs. We mentioned, "hey man, you gotta remember to get the bombs off," to which he replied, "Yeah, my mouse isn't working well, so I'm having a hard time targeting people." When asked why he'd flag for an expert when his mouse wasn't working, "I'm not waiting around to start gearing up."
    Not everything is black and white when it comes to a reasoning to why they aren't doing well. But in that context, they're willingly going into a dungeon knowing that can't perform well without a mouse (to the point that the party is dying), let alone still try to do other tasks like dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    I'll add another to this: hardware malfunctions. One time in fractal, we had a scholar who was extremely slow on heals, and when DPSing only used Broil. We wiped once at the second boss, and another time at the last boss because he didn't use Leeches on the bombs. We mentioned, "hey man, you gotta remember to get the bombs off," to which he replied, "Yeah, my mouse isn't working well, so I'm having a hard time targeting people." When asked why he'd flag for an expert when his mouse wasn't working, "I'm not waiting around to start gearing up."
    If he's using a mouse, then he has a keyboard. Targeting other players (in a four man dungeon) is keybound to F2, F3, and F4 by default. Broken mouse button doesn't explain this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    If he's using a mouse, then he has a keyboard. Targeting other players (in a four man dungeon) is keybound to F2, F3, and F4 by default. Broken mouse button doesn't explain this.
    Maybe he uses mouse-over healing. Getting tired of people always coming back with an excuse of why something can't be a valid excuse. Not everyone plays this game in the exact same manner as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Maybe he uses mouse-over healing. Getting tired of people always coming back with an excuse of why something can't be a valid excuse. Not everyone plays this game in the exact same manner as you.
    But the matter of fact is, if you know that you're going to be playing inefficiently and it gets to the point that it's detrimental to the party (in this case, the healer is letting people die and causing wipes) that's when it becomes a problem. You wouldn't want me tanking with only a mouse because my keyboard is busted (and nevermind the fact that I queued into a roulette knowing that my keyboard is busted) would you? It's perfectly possible to do so with double-click movement and clicking all my skills, doesn't nessescarly mean it's efficent or I'll do a good job of it, and it'll certainly cause problems if it turns out I can't tank with just a mouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    But the matter of fact is, if you know that you're going to be playing inefficiently and it gets to the point that it's detrimental to the party (in this case, the healer is letting people die and causing wipes) that's when it becomes a problem. You wouldn't want me tanking with only a mouse because my keyboard is busted (and nevermind the fact that I queued into a roulette knowing that my keyboard is busted) would you? It's perfectly possible to do so with double-click movement and clicking all my skills, doesn't nessescarly mean it's efficent or I'll do a good job of it, and it'll certainly cause problems if it turns out I can't tank with just a mouse.
    haha, yeah. I forgot the last bit where he had intentionally queued up knowing his mouse was busted. That is a bit of a jackass move :X
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Maybe he uses mouse-over healing. Getting tired of people always coming back with an excuse of why something can't be a valid excuse. Not everyone plays this game in the exact same manner as you.
    Queueing for a dungeon with a malfunctioning mouse makes even less sense in that case.
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