"This is my playstyle" is a poor argument for being bad.

[Skivvy]

If he's using a mouse, then he has a keyboard. Targeting other players (in a four man dungeon) is keybound to F2, F3, and F4 by default. Broken mouse button doesn't explain this.

Maybe he uses mouse-over healing. Getting tired of people always coming back with an excuse of why something can't be a valid excuse. Not everyone plays this game in the exact same manner as you.

[RiceisNice]

Maybe he uses mouse-over healing. Getting tired of people always coming back with an excuse of why something can't be a valid excuse. Not everyone plays this game in the exact same manner as you.

But the matter of fact is, if you know that you're going to be playing inefficiently and it gets to the point that it's detrimental to the party (in this case, the healer is letting people die and causing wipes) that's when it becomes a problem. You wouldn't want me tanking with only a mouse because my keyboard is busted (and nevermind the fact that I queued into a roulette knowing that my keyboard is busted) would you? It's perfectly possible to do so with double-click movement and clicking all my skills, doesn't nessescarly mean it's efficent or I'll do a good job of it, and it'll certainly cause problems if it turns out I can't tank with just a mouse.

[Ashkendor]

Maybe he uses mouse-over healing. Getting tired of people always coming back with an excuse of why something can't be a valid excuse. Not everyone plays this game in the exact same manner as you.

Queueing for a dungeon with a malfunctioning mouse makes even less sense in that case.

[FoxyAreku]

It's a funny argument to me. The classes are so simple when it comes down to it there's really no way to have a 'playstyle' and still play optimally.

Sadly, there really is only one way to do most things in this game. Anything else and you probably deserve to be laughed at.

[Jim_Berry]

Had 2 bards yesterday in nevereap and none of them wanted to use wanderer's minuet. But they sure as hell used foe requiem on every monsters they could see even though we did not have any magical dpsers. I mean, I understand WM isn't their favorite skill right now, but a 50 minutes run in nevereap is never a good thing.

So yeah, I agree with op.

I personally seen some BRDs keep damage consistent without Minuet. With Minuet, they were up and down.

[Jim_Berry]

But you know what I like the most? When people tell others to uninstall the game because that person is a bad player.

PROTIP: How about you uninstall YOUR game if those players are in high numbers and are bothering you that much.

[RiceisNice]

It's a funny argument to me. The classes are so simple when it comes down to it there's really no way to have a 'playstyle' and still play optimally.

Sadly, there really is only one way to do most things in this game. Anything else and you probably deserve to be laughed at.

You can still do relatively decently even as a BRD/MCH without WM/GB, or really any other class that doesn't efficiently use their post-50 skills. Most of the problems that me (and most likely others in this topic) have are people who do less than that intentionally and pass it off with a weak excuse or "I play how I want". I mean honestly, I can do around 500 as a BRD by just spamming heavy shot (and I think there was a dRG that did at least 600 by just spamming heavy thrust), you have to be doing something way off the radar to somehow do less than spamming the same 130 potency skill over and over.

[Jim_Berry]

You can still do relatively decently even as a BRD/MCH without WM/GB, or really any other class that doesn't efficiently use their post-50 skills. Most of the problems that me (and most likely others in this topic) have are people who do less than that intentionally and pass it off with a weak excuse or "I play how I want". I mean honestly, I can do around 500 as a BRD by just spamming heavy shot (and I think there was a dRG that did at least 600 by just spamming heavy thrust), you have to be doing something way off the radar to somehow do less than spamming the same 130 potency skill over and over.

Totally agree.

Unlesss it's a DPS check, then I believe some damage is better than no damage. Back in the day, I used to /sit when people in a dungeon would complain about my damage. Chances are high that I get kicked afterwards, but when I'm not fighting, they barely make it to 50% of the boss's HP as if only a tank and healer were fighting. That said, if I AM doing under YOUR expectation, I'll just show you that it can be even worse by not attacking at all.

[Skivvy]

But the matter of fact is, if you know that you're going to be playing inefficiently and it gets to the point that it's detrimental to the party (in this case, the healer is letting people die and causing wipes) that's when it becomes a problem. You wouldn't want me tanking with only a mouse because my keyboard is busted (and nevermind the fact that I queued into a roulette knowing that my keyboard is busted) would you? It's perfectly possible to do so with double-click movement and clicking all my skills, doesn't nessescarly mean it's efficent or I'll do a good job of it, and it'll certainly cause problems if it turns out I can't tank with just a mouse.

haha, yeah. I forgot the last bit where he had intentionally queued up knowing his mouse was busted. That is a bit of a jackass move :X

[Archaell]

I think we were looking at this topic the wrong way. Instead of focusing on the bad players, we should start focusing on how to play suboptimaly and have fun while doing it.

Content would not get cleared, but imagine all the fun we could have!