Deliverance rant

[SpookyGhost]

Just my opinion though and maybe other warrior mains can chime in on that (healer main here).

The reason (imo) it's worth using Unchained in the first place is that for 2-3 OPs you'll suffer the Defiance penalty, which is a 20% damage reduction on everything you're hitting with those OPs. I assume that outweighs a single Decimate, but I'm not entirely sure. While Unchained does nullify the penalty, if I'm not getting anything out of being in Defiance past the point where I've gotten up my buffs then I figure I might as well switch to Deliverance for the 5% bonus damage.

[Mendalas]

The reason (imo) it's worth using Unchained in the first place is that for 2-3 OPs you'll suffer the Defiance penalty, which is a 20% damage reduction on everything you're hitting with those OPs. I assume that outweighs a single Decimate, but I'm not entirely sure. While Unchained does nullify the penalty, if I'm not getting anything out of being in Defiance past the point where I've gotten up my buffs then I figure I might as well switch to Deliverance for the 5% bonus damage.

You are probably right when comparing it with just doing more damage. I am kinda OCD though with letting such an awesome ability as unchained get wasted haha. I usually only use unchained when pulling a boss and when that is the case, I wait out the full duration and then switch to deliverance right as its wearing off. Sacrificing a little bit of damage so that I can gain massive enmity and be a bit more tanky for longer is worth it in a random pug dungeon. Plus I use the time to do a couple of rotations to build combo points for Deliverance. For a trash pull though, save your stacks and infuriate for doing more damage in deliverance once aggro has been established in defiance. But after that... man the feeling of double tapping a fel cleave/decimate using infuriate with berserk IR, and BB up... Crazy stuff.

[Freyyy]

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Defiance is 25% damage penalty, not 20%. OP is 120 pot, Defiance lowers it to 90, so Unchained makes you gain 30 pot per OP. If you only use Unchained for 2-3 OP, it doesn't outweight a Decimate at all, even a single one. It's not precise maths at all so I may be mistaken here but I know that I parse crazy high on AoE pulls by not using Unchained and instead doing double Decimate. Unchained is worth using in AoE situations only if you plan on staying in Defiance for the full duration of it while spamming OP. If you plan on switching to Deliverance early, I'm almost 100% confident that you should keep yo stacks and go Decimate.

[SpookyGhost]

Defiance is 25% damage penalty, not 20%. OP is 120 pot, Defiance lowers it to 90, so Unchained makes you gain 30 pot per OP. If you only use Unchained for 2-3 OP, it doesn't outweight a Decimate at all, even a single one. It's not precise maths at all so I may be mistaken here but I know that I parse crazy high on AoE pulls by not using Unchained and instead doing double Decimate. Unchained is worth using in AoE situations only if you plan on staying in Defiance for the full duration of it while spamming OP. If you plan on switching to Deliverance early, I'm almost 100% confident that you should keep yo stacks and go Decimate.

Alright, that's interesting, thanks. Probably better to just hold onto your stacks then, yeah.