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  1. #101
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    Dhex's Avatar
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
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    Sure ok I'll give you that maybe it does end up with a higher output I guess. Overall potency wise you're right its maybe more to just spam.

    You're probably going kill them all very fast either way, especially WAR WAR you won't even get a triple Decimate (depends on the HP pools of the trash those droids in Fractal just die instantly ex) so you can just save the stacks left over for the next pack of monsters or boss fight.
    It's just fun to do. The only bone is maybe that Overpower spam isn't TP efficient either really unless you're willing to drop Equilibrium for TP over a single mob pack?

    In a PUG it won't matter likely if you exhaust TP or CDs since things won't likely "go to plan" anyway.

    It gets the job done either way one way is CD efficient (I suppose?) the other is TP efficient.

    Just goes to show WAR has really high raw output on packs of monsters.
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    Last edited by Dhex; 11-05-2015 at 12:08 PM.

  2. #102
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    Sure ok.

    You're probably going kill them early, so you can just save stacks left over for the next pack of monsters or boss fight.



    That and it's just fun to do. Overpower spam isn't TP efficient either really unless you're willing to drop Equilibrium for TP over a single mob pack.
    Doesn't matter if you're going to kill them early or not. It was all based off the example you tried to say was superior. As for Equilibrium, if things are getting killed that quickly it's not an issue to use it for TP gain. The recast is short enough that it'll be up for each pull.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    Doesn't matter if you're going to kill them early or not. It was all based off the example you tried to say was superior. As for Equilibrium, if things are getting killed that quickly it's not an issue to use it for TP gain. The recast is short enough that it'll be up for each pull.
    Well there is nothing wrong with being wrong - I've just always done as many Decimates as I could feasibly squeeze into a pull (which has always yielded a lot of damage) - a triple isn't very common but we do them sometimes. I'll just mess with Overpower and see if the results are better, but usually my goal when rounding out any trash pack is to build a few stacks for the next pull/boss.


    Edit: We tested this the other night. Depending on crits it goes either way but Zerk - Dec/Dec OP OP OP OP OP grabs stacks PAC -> next pull ended up being efficient and more reliable to push us along at a higher pace overall since there is less timing involved.
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    Last edited by Dhex; 11-06-2015 at 11:14 AM.

  4. #104
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    Faerie
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    Yeah sadly I know the pain. Ever since I switched to monk have a dps class for my FC I've been seeing a very bad line of warriors. And it's sad because Warrior is my main job. I take pride when I do it. Honestly I don't stance dance as much as I should I'll admit. I like being tanky. I though when I stance dance on mobs usually I pop Vengeance and berserk for the extra damage aggro. At the end of the day I'm still a tank and I still have a job to do. Plus I don't mind having my healer DPS. I get nothing but mad love from all my healer. But this new wave of warriors hurts I won't even lie. I'm not the best but no sense should 20-30 min dungeon runs double in time because WAR wants to hit stuff for fun....
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by RecklessLion View Post
    I though when I stance dance on mobs usually I pop Vengeance and berserk for the extra damage aggro. At the end of the day I'm still a tank and I still have a job to do. Plus I don't mind having my healer DPS. I get nothing but mad love from all my healer. But this new wave of warriors hurts I won't even lie.
    I've been whming runs lately and I agree, there are definitely a lot of bandwagon Wars out there now making War mains look bad XD

    Still, that doesn't mean no warriors should use deliverance. It DOES mean you should know how to play the class before you do.

    make sure you pop bloddlust with zerk and vengeance and you'll have your heals loving you even more >
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  6. #106
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdorGrey View Post
    make sure you pop bloodlust with zerk and vengeance and you'll have your heals loving you even more >
    Man, I wish.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Man, I wish.
    I always make that typo >.<

    well, not the double d bit technically.
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