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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    Easy, make gear sets that only males can equip and stick to that intention during the designing process the same time they're designing female-only sets.

    It's a small miracle that Snow's outfit isn't unisex.

    There's little they can do to even things out as it is without completely omitting female glamour in the future (and watch the shoe land on the other foot here on the forums... hard) or break down and design male equivalents to all current female-locked gear (unlikely, too much server stress, PS3 limitations and "we have no intentions of implementing this" reasons), but they sure as heck can keep the gap from widening from this point on if they cared.
    That doesn't answer the question at all though. I was obviously pointing out the crowd that is aiming for something masculine to be male exclusive. I stated so right before the part you quoted. A traditional masculine version of the bunny suit? Not exactly plausible. A testosterone driven Thavnairian Bustier set? Yeah, that'll go over well with them. In order to fit the "masculine" appeal, massive changes need to be made to sets like that. If you change those things a lot, they lose their identity. They might as well be separate items, just as the Thavnairian glamour equips have two different sets (the female-only and the unisex), which then raises the question of how well this drastically altered item also looks on a female character... back to square one of that crowd complaining that there's more female than male outfits.

    As you said, at least the gap wouldn't widen, but again, my question was in reference to the crowd that seeks non-skirt, non-dress, non-feminine attire to be male-only. You know the type, muscles and heavy armors sort of crowd. They want those things, but they're conjoining it with the other arguments, such as people that want to wear the female-only gear, and clinging to the numbers game to support it.

    Know what's really unfortunate? The people I refer to, I've encountered one directly in-game, asking for heavy male-only armors and comparing to how there are so many more female-only glamour gear. When you know... those heavier, masculine armors, tend to be the default look on combat gear. That's the type I refer to when I say they cling to the numbers game. If what they want isn't available, the argument shouldn't be about the gender specific gear, but rather the gear design itself.

    This is why I always point out flaws or misconceptions in posts. People may not like that, even if I support the argument, but people really shouldn't try to fall into the ignorant category, even if a hundred people agree with them. It just re-enforces the idea that people don't know what they want or what they're saying, and thus their words shouldn't really be taken very seriously. This is why people should specifically state that they want access to (altered) female-only gear as male characters or, in the more ignorant cases, access to masculine male gear. I call that one ignorant due to how it's very rare for someone to say something more than "just make it manly" sort of a response, or one like the in-game complaint I mentioned. Thus, is why I raise the question of what exactly could be done to do this.

    Just to be clear, I get that some people in this thread stated specifically what they're arguing for. The OP though? Nope, and that's exactly what started this tired debate.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 10-28-2015 at 06:28 AM.