Seriously?

[Archaell]

heh I don't care, if the nerfs mean faster runs, i'm all up for it

You should think about the consequences. Easier dungeons doesn't only mean faster runs. It also means that players run towards the skill wall at faster pace and that leads to bloody face injuries.

Instead of nerfing dungeons SE should start shaping a better difficulty curve so that players have smaller challanges to overcome at a time - instead of enjoying the ride till they get brutaly murdered when they reach their unfortunate demise.

[Seryl199]

Its not fun, you're right, but with this, we can expect later dungeons, to be better. Players will learn, and honestly I bet this nerf will be very slight, and we will all get that feeling of excitement just as we did before.

When will players learn? Should they not have grasped the fundamentals by the time they've reached Garuda NM? They had to have cleared Ifrit and Titan, so the players have experienced pass/fail DPS checks, raidwide damage, dodging special AoE's, basic knowledge that they should have for any boss. The only new concept introduced in that fight is the destructible pillars, which is nothing more than a DPS check with a side of positional awareness. That's the only thing the fight teaches you, positioning to avoid damage to the pillars, positioning to AoE plumes without getting LoS'd, positioning to dodge Garuda's attacks, positioning to stay inside the tornado AoE. Garuda teaches you that where you place your character is important to safely handle the mechanics, nothing more.

It's not a bad thing for players to fail from time to time. It makes them ask "What went wrong?" or "How can I do better?" If a player fails to hide behind the rocks for Garuda's shriek, or stands too close to them and gets them cleaved, do you think they'll fare better in AK HM's first boss? If they can't DPS the plumes fast enough, how will they handle Nidhogg's Sable Price? If they can't heal consistently through damage, how can they handle the Vault? Learning your class is one thing, everyone has different speeds at which they learn, some are more dedicated to optimization than others, and no one can teach you your playstyle. However, learning the fundamentals of PvE is a necessity. If a player doesn't know the basics, how will they ever learn an encounter that expects you to know the basics, then piles real mechanics on top of it?

[Alex_Lenderson]

Hah was in a random DF and someone said "oh look the author of the Serious thread." And now the tune 'its a small world after-all...' won't go away.

[Alex_Lenderson]

heh I don't care, if the nerfs mean faster runs, i'm all up for it

I would rather they just give more exp. Running through them again is a chore on alts because they can get boring. Though of them my favorite is the Vault.

[Adire]

Hah was in a random DF and someone said "oh look the author of the Serious thread." And now the tune 'its a small world after-all...' won't go away.

Lol, hi!

That was a pretty pro group by the way, not often I see the last boss go down that fast :P

[CGMidlander]

Maybe too much sickness was purged

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Maybe too much sickness was purged

I ran the Vault 57 times between my 2 characters. Fav dungeon by far in the expansion.

[Ashkendor]

Maybe too much sickness was purged

Filthy rats.

[Iagainsti]

Hah was in a random DF and someone said "oh look the author of the Serious thread." And now the tune 'its a small world after-all...' won't go away.

#Zalera4Life Alex!!!

[Nadirah]

So who's going to teach us how to do 3.1 content? It is no ones job to teach players anything.

The community learns how to play the game in one of two ways.

Figuring it out their damn selves, or learning from other players.

The game doesn't teach you how to play. it gives you basic information and you figure it out from there.

Those that figure it out first teach those that come later. Or did you miss all those videos of content that people are expected to have watched before jumping into pf? Because that's what that is. Players teaching other players how the game works.

Gods you're dense.