Why do people want trash?

[Alex_Lenderson]

Over and over I hear people complaining that they want less boss fights and more 'real raids' for endgame content. My question is... why do you want to kill trash mobs? That seems utterly dull to me. Get to the meat of the fight instead of wasting time in trivial fights. Can someone help explain?

[Moonleg]

Because just having a single boss and nothing else is commonly called a trial in this game, NOT a raid.

[Leowilde]

If the trash yields xp, there'd be a nice way to level right there. Also, just cutting all but the boss would mean little running through the beautifully designes surroundings. We could all just fight primals then. :/ But I don't mind giving the trash some more flare. Make them somehow more interesting.

[Phireblast]

There are many instances in games with raids that have trash mobs that require a decent amount of thinking to clear through, making the encounter comparable to a mini boss of sorts. That's the type of trash people are asking for.

[Morningstar1337]

There are many instances in games with raids that have trash mobs that require a decent amount of thinking to clear through, making the encounter comparable to a mini boss of sorts. That's the type of trash people are asking for.

EXAMPLE: the Atomos in Labyrinth of the Ancients (and a lesser extent the World of Darkness)

[Colorful]

EXAMPLE: the Atomos in Labyrinth of the Ancients (and a lesser extent the World of Darkness)

Atomos is more what people consider a mini-boss than trash, hell if it was WoW it would likely be considered a raid boss if they buffed it a little.

[Nestama]

EXAMPLE: the Atomos in Labyrinth of the Ancients (and a lesser extent the World of Darkness)

Vassago is a better example, in my opinion.

[Niqote]

There are many instances in games with raids that have trash mobs that require a decent amount of thinking to clear through, making the encounter comparable to a mini boss of sorts. That's the type of trash people are asking for.

I always thought Dynamis was a lot of fun. Maybe we will see something like it one day.

[Welsper59]

I always thought Dynamis was a lot of fun. Maybe we will see something like it one day.

That's essentially what the airship locations are supposed to be, at least from what we can tell. It seems to give generic mobs reason to be defeated, similar to how Dynamis worked. Nothing will ever replace the initial feel of how Dynamis was handled when it released. Dynamis was an entirely different beast altogether, where every single trash mob were practically mini bosses where each one of them were threatening enough to wipe your entire raid if designated CC groups weren't careful... and there were tons per pull. They would never do that sort of thing to us, at least not in the foreseeable future. Here, outside of Savage, we'll outgear content before anyone can first attempt them. Most of us wouldn't even realize this significant overgeared advantage. Hell, I'd bet most players will claim the new dungeons suck because they're too easy (while being in full 200 or 210 gear). That's just how it goes with us.

[Kailok]

I always thought Dynamis was a lot of fun. Maybe we will see something like it one day.

I think the reason I liked it so much was because of how eerie and dark it was. I loved that it was like dark alternate versions of starter city zones. It was an awesome way to use assets in the game already while also providing new and difficult challenges. And honestly the way they did trash mobs in Dynamis was perfect. Sure, it took took hours and having to buy your way in wasn't great but it was great content.