Immersion, The Facts & Fiction

[Crica]

Darn that really is breaking it into it's basic elements. I was about to say The Force from Star Wars too, I can't really think of an example of how any part of that can be related to reality in any way at all.

"the force" is an idea derived from human religions.

"the force" is a natural god in Star Wars.

God is a real human idea.

The same idea is used in FFVII - "the life stream".

[Rinoa]

the problem with moral is that it is all subject to your view. Bartandelus saw it as a good thing to kill Cacoon's inhabitants. but they saw it good to kill him instead.

[Crica]

the problem with moral is that it is all subject to your view. Bartandelus saw it as a good thing to kill Cacoon's inhabitants.

Morality is situational and relative and personal all at the same time.

I agree.

Lying is thought to be immoral.

Yet, if I lied to anyone who was trying to harm me, would lying still be immoral?

[Konachibi]

"the force" is an idea derived from human religions.

"the force" is a natural god in Star Wars.

God is a real human idea.

The same idea is used in FFVII - "the life stream".

So then to create something totally unrealistic is impossible as simply by creating it you give it some foundation to reality?

[Rinoa]

Then how do they choke people with it and shoot lightning from their fingers?

I though you were wanting to know were they might have gotten the idea from. Now that i think about it, magnetism gave us magic, because it is magic in a sense.

[Lyndis]

Just came back to read what you all said, I've let my opinion be heard and all. I did however want to say because it bothers me...

Rhomagus is a terrible arguer, not only does he try to act superior because he knows how to talk and look the part. But he just can't quite understand that subjective things are the only things worth arguing considering that FACT can't be argued and is pretty easily understood. Thus the problem with this thread trying to say that the definitions were the issue when I'm pretty sure the definitions weren't what was being confused, it's the simple idea that people need to see where immersion begins and ends and argue their opinions.

Curses, not only did I personally attack someone but I inserted a new argument. Good luck all!

[Crica]

So then to create something totally unrealistic is impossible as simply by creating it you give it some foundation to reality?

As far as my personal thought train can go, yes.

Not to mention, "force" is real as well.

[Konachibi]

I though you were wanting to know were they might have gotten the idea from. Now that i think about it, magnetism gave us magic, because it is magic in a sense.

Lol, I often question how things work before working out where it came from

[Lyndis]

I though you were wanting to know were they might have gotten the idea from. Now that i think about it, magnetism gave us magic, because it is magic in a sense.

Also magnetism may have been called magic at one point because people didn't understand it. Fantasy just expands on that idea...

CRAP I DID IT AGAIN. YOU GUYS ARE BADDDD LET ME LEAVE T.T

[Konachibi]

Rhomagus is a terrible arguer

I agree, I'd hate to have an arguement with him. I'd spend half my time trying to work out what each sentence means 'cos he uses really long words XD