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  1. #11
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Wait wait. I know this is tank section but this will also be implemented to thee roles. R you saying that gear will only have primary stats and no secondary stats? So in order for us to have any det crit and SS we have to add Materia when 3.2 comes around?


    I'm hoping that's not the case. From my understanding that tombstone and raid gear will just have added slots but will still have primary and secondary stats, similar to that of crafted armors.
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  2. #12
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Think you missed the point here, that for classes to be played best they have to shell out for materia.

    It's not customizable unless the melded materia changes stats, not adds to it.
    If it adds stats to existing ones, it'll be better than your baseline gear.

    So sorry that you spent months working on A4S to get that bis tank chest, you now need to meld 5 V's into it for bis.

    Please look forward to it.
    Pink Pieces can be generated with 3 secondaries at max meaning that they can be randomly generated as BiS.

    What I meant by base line is that pieces should maintain the standard 1 secondary at cap 1 secondary at 2/3rds cap distribution. Currently the most of a secondary you can meld into a piece is 60 points and you can customize those points.
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  3. #13
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    This is also probably relevant, from the Q&A thread ( http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3389641 ):



    It's a little vague (they'll probably elaborate later), but this seems to suggest we might be seeing adjustments to the damage formulas for tanks.
    yup, is the end of vit vs str war i see in the 3.2 horizon?i hope soo im really happy if tanks come a normal class for once.

    for melding tomestome gear,pffff well give us a huge customize options, but im not crafter and farm gil is not mi favourite option in the game -.-
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    Merida Quigg
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    Seems like with the addition of tombstone melding the game will focus less on materia and more on raid drops to make bis gear. At least that is how I interpreted it.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    yeah, but i dont know in your server but in mine ppl selling materias very high prices in the market, and spiritbond is not part of mi hobbyes, but well whitout sacrifice there is no reward i guess.
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  6. #16
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    Baron Eduardo
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    Please stop saying TOMBstone.
    It's TOMEstone, for %%%%'s sake......


    I find it pretty stupid that they are not adding new crafting accessories of ilv180 for patch 3.1
    Are they holding these back for patch 3.2 ?? Or is patch 3.2 getting lv 220+ craftable everything including accessories?!
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  7. #17
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    I find it pretty stupid that they are not adding new crafting accessories of ilv180 for patch 3.1
    Are they holding these back for patch 3.2 ?? Or is patch 3.2 getting lv 220+ craftable everything including accessories?!
    More than likely they aren't adding them because they don't have the materia system changes ready yet and can't put them in for 3.1. Since the changes aren't coming til 3.2, if there were i180 accessories, tanks would be highly incentivized to get them and overmeld them for progression in 3.2, which is something they're trying to get away from.
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  8. #18
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Raid gear is meldable too by the slide's indication.

    I imagine Raid/Tomestone/HQ Crafted will already be at the meld caps for their primary stats (and 1 secondary), so mostly wouldn't be melding main stat materia anyway (1 of Acc/SkS/Crit/Det already capped also). Just hybrid accessories are getting limited. Fending accessories with just 1 STR meld, Slaying accessories with just 1 VIT meld.

    I'm hating the DET removed from auto-attacks even more right now. Especially for PLD. FAIK the stat-weights of secondaries are still pathetic compared to 2.x

    Maybe that's something they're looking at addressing. Meldable BiS options (other than hybrid accessories) has been something I've been hoping for for a while. But seems to be coming at a considerable cost
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 10-26-2015 at 02:25 AM.

  9. #19
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    I can't say I mind this all that much. The static I found is questioning my sanity for spending 5 mil on pentamelded accessories for my tank before the raid leader decided that I was gonna be the ranged support. Now I have a loss of 5 million with no real reason for my tank. :c Except for bad healers in DF I suppose.
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  10. 10-26-2015 02:55 AM

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    Tai Lhalorn
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    A lot is still being discussed as to whether you're only going to be able to meld ONE piece of materia to tome/raid gear, with no forbidden melds, and whether you're able to meld primary (notably STR, VIT or PIE) stats just to the actual materia slots and then meld non-primary stats (CRIT, DET, ACC) through forbidden melds on both crafted and tome/raid gear.

    Either way this goes, I feel like it will be a gil sink for most players who raid. I hope that is not the case, but we'll see how it's implemented I suppose.
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