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  1. #21
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    Drivont's Avatar
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    Drivont O'raguille
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by dank1 View Post
    Thats the prob, this post is asking for smaller FCs to get the chance to gain more points, thus negating the advantage larger fcs have over smaller ones.
    Where did I say that I wanted an advantage over a larger FC? I asked for a universal new FC Credit fountain in the game.... Larger FC's would benefit too, I never said ONLY small FC's can get this...if anything, with some scaling, and more ways to get the same credits as others, large FC's would still come out on top.
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  2. #22
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    Dank Evol
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Drivont View Post
    So on a lower population server, like Goblin, my friends and I have to suffer when there are LITERALLY almost no new players coming in that AREN'T hopping right into an FC because a friend invited them? I thought the whole point of FCs was to get people playing together, no matter HOW many people are in an FC... I didn't know I was FCing wrong by not wanting 200 people I don't know in my FC...
    You're missing the point, the question comes down to what even is the point of an FC that you can't do outside of an LS? FC buffs? Ok. That's it that's like our one and only tangible benefit from being in an FC, guilds throughout history have always been about getting a large group of players to ban together towards a common goal, do we have that incentive here? Do we have any incentive at all here to be in a FC?

    I understand people are in smaller servers with having to be stuck in a small fc but thats my point, the reason why no one will join your fc is cause if you look around everyone else is also in their own lil small fc without a pool of players. If SE created more FC content these players would then realize that "ok we need more players somehow" maybe then they'd think outside the box and reach other to other small similar fcs and work out some sort of deal like maybe a merger or somethingnof the sort.

    My point is we need more incentives to make fcs even be needed cause at this point they arent to consolidate the ridiculous amount of small FCs.
    I find it unfair that the people who choose to be in small FCs are asking for the same benefits that larger FCs get for something self inflicted.
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    Last edited by dank1; 10-24-2015 at 02:33 AM.
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  3. #23
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    Drivont O'raguille
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post

    The problem I see with any huge FC is that there is only a small amount most members will contribute, while management and reward will mostly come down to a tiny handful. How many players are in FCs with airships, yet they have no idea what the airship interface looks like? I'm the kind of player that wants to build it, manage it, repair it, and reap the rewards from it, and I can't see how that would work in an fc with over 100 people.

    I don't think they should favor any type of FC size. Airships are rough, because on one hand, you have an FC credit shortage for the small FCs, and a lack of access to airships for the players in large FCs.

    Perhaps a happy medium would have been to have FC airship fleets, where each member can build and operate their own airship. Smaller cost and reward per airship, but direct control for each FC member of their unique ship.
    I love this idea!!! This is also exactly why I don't want anything huge ... it's not me, or my close-knit friends style of enjoyment or play style. And Goblin is in a HUGE patch lull with anyone new or old, so there really AREN'T any options if we WANTED to grow, and scaled FC credits would be a nice insurance against times like this IMO.
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    Last edited by Drivont; 10-24-2015 at 02:34 AM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drivont View Post
    Where did I say that I wanted an advantage over a larger FC? I asked for a universal new FC Credit fountain in the game.... Larger FC's would benefit too, I never said ONLY small FC's can get this...if anything, with some scaling, and more ways to get the same credits as others, large FC's would still come out on top.
    But again, what would the point of a larger FC be then? Small FCs get as money points as a larger FC? You SHOULD have a FC point deficit because youre a smaller FC, thats the reason why you either recruit more members or consolidate FCs so that you dont have a million tiny FCs
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  5. #25
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    Drivont O'raguille
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    Gladiator Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by dank1 View Post
    But again, what would the point of a larger FC be then? Small FCs get as money points as a larger FC? You SHOULD have a FC point deficit because youre a smaller FC, thats the reason why you either recruit more members or consolidate FCs so that you dont have a million tiny FCs
    small FC's already do get the same points as large FC's and that's what I'm saying. The advantage would be you would get your numbers FASTER than I would, with more people doing it. Perfectly fine by me. I'm asking for a new option and scaling up the rewards from FC participation. You'd still be miles ahead on accumulation, thus the need for a large FC will still appeal to some. I would be behind. It would still be the same. I'm fine with that as well. (Although I do agree with you, SE needs to put in more reasons for FCs to grow/stick together) I'm asking for slightly larger numbers than say 10 Credits for doing a 15min boss FATE is all.
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  6. #26
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by dank1 View Post
    But again, what would the point of a larger FC be then? Small FCs get as money points as a larger FC? You SHOULD have a FC point deficit because youre a smaller FC, thats the reason why you either recruit more members or consolidate FCs so that you dont have a million tiny FCs
    Why does there need to be a bribe to join a larger FC?

    One where you're more likely a number, full of cliques and in general, just like high school?

    I was ecstatic to find the game didn't require massive guilds.
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  7. #27
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    Cnidaria Vaeriat
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Drivont View Post
    small FC's already do get the same points as large FC's and that's what I'm saying. The advantage would be you would get your numbers FASTER than I would, with more people doing it. Perfectly fine by me. I'm asking for a new option and scaling up the rewards from FC participation. You'd still be miles ahead on accumulation, thus the need for a large FC will still appeal to some. I would be behind. It would still be the same. I'm fine with that as well. (Although I do agree with you, SE needs to put in more reasons for FCs to grow/stick together) I'm asking for slightly larger numbers than say 10 Credits for doing a 15min boss FATE is all.
    I think your problem might be that you aren't as active as you think. Your FC with 34 listed members earned 32,000 credits last week. Two other FCs on your server earned 94000 and 68000 credits, the 94,000 FC has 3 listed members while the 68,000 FC has 28 listed members. My FC on Excalibur has 107 listed members with only 10-12 members actually playing the game earned 115,000 credits last week.
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  8. #28
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    Arle Egress
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnidarian View Post
    I think your problem might be that you aren't as active as you think. Your FC with 34 listed members earned 32,000 credits last week. Two other FCs on your server earned 94000 and 68000 credits, the 94,000 FC has 3 listed members while the 68,000 FC has 28 listed members. My FC on Excalibur has 107 listed members with only 10-12 members actually playing the game earned 115,000 credits last week.
    This as well.

    If everyone isn't active when they're online as in... running dungeons, fates, crafting, gathering then you won't get points. How many of your FC members just stand around and chat or idle?

    Currently we have no problems getting points every week in my FC and have only 5-6 members that are incredibly active.
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  9. #29
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    Drivont O'raguille
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    Gladiator Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnidarian View Post
    I think your problem might be that you aren't as active as you think. Your FC with 34 listed members earned 32,000 credits last week. Two other FCs on your server earned 94000 and 68000 credits, the 94,000 FC has 3 listed members while the 68,000 FC has 28 listed members. My FC on Excalibur has 107 listed members with only 10-12 members actually playing the game earned 115,000 credits last week.
    I know we're not as active, there are only 5 of us until 3.1. I'd still like a little plumping up to the overall numbers, and a few more ways to earn them.
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  10. #30
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    Abyss King
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    Paladin Lv 60
    We learn how to build a ship from scratch.. alone.. with the Ixali.. and then we are required to group to create ships..

    I think bigger FCs will have advantage over exploration because of fuel and maintaining cost, getting bigger ships and then rewards.

    But I'm happy with my small FC, now if only I could get 2-6 other members to do trials, dungeons and perhaps raiding, that would complete the game for me ^^
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