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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Oh I disagree and if you're a paying customer you should be entitled to whatever you're sub is paying for. Sorry I disagree cause there are some real life issues like military deployment, illness and more that can keep people away for more than 45 days. Why does entering the house need to apply if you're paying for the sub and the game.
    I can agree to some extent. There are factor's that could take you away for 45+ days. Military deployment would be one of the bigger one's, but then, I would also have to agree with sirDarts statement. At that point, losing some virtual items should be the least of your concerns. And if it's military deployment, it doesn't mean they can't access unless it's in a war zone or 3rd world country. And those deployments are usually 3-9 months (to which, yes, I will say, it would kinda suck to come back and see your stuff gone). Otherwise, deployments will usually just take you somewhere where you'll have internet and be staying there for probably a few years. On top of this, what if a person is deployed into a war zone, but had a long subscription going and died on duty? I hardly feel any of his family would bother to cancel his sub (sorry for being morbid, a lot of my family is involved in military, so please don't view my statement as not caring for them).

    IF you have an illness that prevents you from accessing the internet, then yea, you shouldn't really be worrying about your game account. That to me, would signify you have a potentially terminal disease or you are in a coma (in which case, you REALLY probably wouldn't care about your FF account). Sorry for being morbid, but these cases are all one's in which I highly doubt the person would care that they lost a virtual house if they are so sick they can't even play.

    I can't think of any other reasons (other than boredom or cheapness) that would prevent someone from being able to log in once in 45 days for a minute to preserve their house.
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    So what happens on servers where there are still houses available? I'm assuming a guy who takes a 2 month break gets his personal house demolished despite there being open plots next door?

    Maybe this should be something they switch on and off depending on the realm. You can argue all day as to who is more entitled to having an in-game house, be the simple fact is that it sucks to have something you invested in taken from you, no matter the reason. But yeah, that's an issue they should have thought out better before putting instanced housing in the game originally.
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    None of this would be an issue if SE simply created a proper housing system where EVERYONE could have a "house". :P

    I just want a small room/studio that I can decorate myself, and have access to gardening (indoor flowerpots) and possibly some stable options. I don't need a fancy house in a large neighborhood instance.

    They could then leave the existing homes for those who DO want the full house experience.

    But yeah, that's all wishful thinking at this point.
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    The argument that having IRL issues and your FFXIV account "should be the least of your concerns" holds no weight. It's not even an argument. Value is completely subjective and others do not and will not decide what is of concern to anyone but themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicewolf View Post
    IF you have an illness that prevents you from accessing the internet, then yea, you shouldn't really be worrying about your game account. That to me, would signify you have a potentially terminal disease or you are in a coma (in
    Being sick shouldn't be a reason to lose ones house in a game. The fact that you have more real issues to worry about shouldn't be a rational for losing anything if you're taking the time to pay a sub for a game. Perhaps if you had a serious illness you'd understand but I don't suspect you do (at least I hope not). I just find this concept of having to enter the house physically to be a bit odd if you're a paying customer you should be entitled to whatever your sub fee is paying for.

    I think the main issue here is to try and deal with those who have stopped subbing and reclaim their housing given they aren't in fact using it and it should be made available for others to use instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    So what happens on servers where there are still houses available? I'm assuming a guy who takes a 2 month break gets his personal house demolished despite there being open plots next door?

    Maybe this should be something they switch on and off depending on the realm. You can argue all day as to who is more entitled to having an in-game house, be the simple fact is that it sucks to have something you invested in taken from you, no matter the reason. But yeah, that's an issue they should have thought out better before putting instanced housing in the game originally.
    This is a very good point. At that point taking their house away would be messed up especially if they are still paying a sub and there is no house shortage or demand on said server.
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    45 days is too few for a personal home. Lot of people take breaks for various reasons, it doesn't mean they're unworthy of their achievement.
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    Not sure how I feel about this. While people have worked hard for their homes, if they're not actually using it, and someone else could be, it makes sense. Only pointing this out for the sake of thread argument but I personally do have an illness and if I couldn't be online for those 45 days it would make sense for someone else who is active to use that plot. I guess the time scale could be longer, but when is it long enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Being sick shouldn't be a reason to lose ones house in a game. The fact that you have more real issues to worry about shouldn't be a rational for losing anything if you're taking the time to pay a sub for a game. Perhaps if you had a serious illness you'd understand but I don't suspect you do (at least I hope not). I just find this concept of having to enter the house physically to be a bit odd if you're a paying customer you should be entitled to whatever your sub fee is paying for.

    I think the main issue here is to try and deal with those who have stopped subbing and reclaim their housing given they aren't in fact using it and it should be made available for others to use instead.
    No, I do not have an illness which would prevent me from logging into the game for 45 days in a row. I will say, if someone was in a coma for 46 days, I would feel REALLY bad for them. But otherwise, I cannot think of any illness's that would prevent a 45 day gap that wouldn't also be cause for simply not coming back at all. Even someone going through cancer and chemo would be able to log on (as they don't simply keep you in the hospital forever from illness). IF you had a highly contagious disease, then you'd be quarantined, but once again, doesn't mean you can't access the internet and play. For those cases, they are quite accommodating usually.

    Just because you pay, doesn't mean you play. There are also simply people who have a lot of money and just let accounts continuously auto repay subs for a while before they finally cancel it. Honestly, I wouldn't care if they gave more time, but nor do I think 45 days is too short of a time period. As I said, I've gone through all pre-heavensward content in about 2 months time. There are still people joining this game as new players who are looking for a spot to call their own. Yet, we have some with multiple that visit it once every 3 months that are complaining? If you REALLY want your own space, why not just buy a private room in your FC house? If you say "because I want more space to decorate", then ok, sure, that's fine by me IF you actually intend to utilize it.

    You have 80 days essentially. 45 to not lose ANYTHING and an additional 35 to collect up the remnants if you couldn't visit once in 45 days.
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    I can see where people are saying as long as you paying a sub you should get to keep your house but lot of people pay monthly instead of extended. So if person on monthly sub decided to take a break for 2 months where they not paying a sub anymore they should continue to keep their house while the paying sub don't get a house cause it in limbo from the other person taking a break?
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