Can we get an Official clarification on housing Demolish timer (45 or 90?)

[Catwho]

It's not just storage space, which is something that people who don't work on large IT systems don't understand. It's server CPU overhead. It's memory.

I'm working on a fairly complex web application at my office, but we only deal with around 400-500 users at a time, not four million. Our test server? We have to reboot that daily because of RAM creep every time we make a tiny change. The production servers get rebooted weekly for the same reason due to database churn. XIV's servers do not reboot; they have built the code with enough robustness to self-trim RAM and keep everything manageable while people are playing. Adding another housing ward adds much more overhead than you'd realize.

I'm still hoping to see Ishgard housing in the future - ideally they will find a solution to the CPU and RAM overhead costs by then.

[Nihility]

It's really just a matter of what they have to work with
-their resources are limited to the point of only being capable of very limited housing areas(they can't even extend the armory chest to make room for new jobs it's so limited)
-there are tons of people constantly complaining about no houses available and also a surprising amount of super rich individuals that have multiple homes
-they are going to favor and support those that maintain a constant subscription over those that only come on for a month or so after a major patch
-they are not going to form policies around fringe cases of "what if i get stranded in a snowed in cabin on a remote mountain for 2 months?!"

It is what it is and i even remember them mentioning you'll be able to lose a house to inactivity back when they were first implemented and no one could afford them at all.
They even send you warnings when time is getting short. If you play normally it's a non-issue

[Malicewolf]

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Email receipts... really... Anywho, the argument I was trying to make was that your suggestion negates the initial reason behind this occurring. Those that DO NOT LOG ON ANYMORE AND QUIT are the one's we REALLY want off of properties. But you want to send those people emails and get their "acceptance" before taking it away? Or, we end up having people who never bother checking the darn emails and instead, no acceptance, therefore, no demolished houses from those people. It's simply backwards from what this update is meant to accomplish.

And as for storage. I like her answer

It's not just storage space, which is something that people who don't work on large IT systems don't understand. It's server CPU overhead. It's memory.

I'm working on a fairly complex web application at my office, but we only deal with around 400-500 users at a time, not four million. Our test server? We have to reboot that daily because of RAM creep every time we make a tiny change. The production servers get rebooted weekly for the same reason due to database churn. XIV's servers do not reboot; they have built the code with enough robustness to self-trim RAM and keep everything manageable while people are playing. Adding another housing ward adds much more overhead than you'd realize.

I'm still hoping to see Ishgard housing in the future - ideally they will find a solution to the CPU and RAM overhead costs by then.

Thank you for that ^^

My apologies for not using all the right technical terms however. Storage is all I said, but the point I was trying to get at was, everything adds up. Think of it this way. Sure, an enemy hitting you at 10 dmg per hit ain't bad. But add in 30 hitting you at once and you got 300 dmg per coming at a time. Things add up. We got what? Couple million players?

As I said, I don't doubt they "could" do it. But SE is a business too and everything still has to be calculated.

[Sicno]

So, bottom line is that there's a lot of people who are ok with tearing down other people's homes because they want one of their own and they consider "those are wasted resources that would be better used on themselves".

Such a nice, friendly community!

[Kietsu]

So, bottom line is that there's a lot of people who are ok with tearing down other people's homes because they want one of their own and they consider "those are wasted resources that would be better used on themselves".

Such a nice, friendly community!

No, the bottom line is that there is no space left and people want to own housing. It's a bit hard to care about the property of somebody who doesn't care about the property.
If you want to keep your home, you just need to check in every 44 days or so, that's hardly a lot of work on your end. And if you don't have a subscription because content dried up? Well now.

[Malicewolf]

So, bottom line is that there's a lot of people who are ok with tearing down other people's homes because they want one of their own and they consider "those are wasted resources that would be better used on themselves".

Such a nice, friendly community!

Well, how can I be a friendly community member for you if your not even online in a 45 day time frame?

[Sicno]

No, the bottom line is that there is no space left and people want to own housing.

No, bottom line is that people who want homes want them at any cost even if it involves stripping other people of their own.

[RiceisNice]

No, bottom line is that people who want homes want them at any cost even if it involves stripping other people of their own.

Could say the same about the people who actually own the homes and camped for it on time of release, especially when new wards were added.

[Malicewolf]

Or you log in for 2 min every 44 days and the actual point of this update actually takes effect and those who quit but own houses open up their lots.

[Sicno]

Well, how can I be a friendly community member for you if your not even online in a 45 day time frame?

Oh so you can't be friendly to people you don't see all the time or who has been away for some time? Good thing I'm not one of your distant relatives.