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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    That sounds awesome! Can't wait to get home from work and test it myself.

    Edit: Dervy basically confirms it: https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/2015/...a-mudra-fixed/
    yep hopeful 3.1 makes raiton more worth using outside of the spots you mentioned in the previous posts
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    Last edited by Pluvia; 10-21-2015 at 12:16 AM.

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    Soo the jutsu fix is officially implemented for the EU data center, and raiton still clips GCD? Or is it just from the difference in ping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CotaBota View Post
    Soo the jutsu fix is officially implemented for the EU data center, and raiton still clips GCD? Or is it just from the difference in ping?
    This is simple a test to see how latency as affected Mudra on EU ninjas, with our new datacenter.
    From dervy's blog post from dervy themselves.
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    In the final comment at the bottom of the page. Well, thank you for pointing this out anyway! Here's hoping 3.1 resolves our issues once and for all.
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    Am I losing damage by losing 64 det on my 180 pants by going to the gordian
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    190 set? I get 8 dex but 64 det is a lot to lose too. All I gained was accuracy

    Apologies for split post mobile sucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meow9000 View Post
    190 set? I get 8 dex but 64 det is a lot to lose too. All I gained was accuracy

    Apologies for split post mobile sucks
    WD: 10.775
    DEX: 1.000
    DET: 0.141
    CRT: 0.166
    SS: 0.074 (Mudra clipping is horrible)

    Using Dervy's stat weights(please correct me if I'm wrong guys Its late here) the 180 pants have a total stat weight of 90.858 and the 190 pants have a total stat weight of 91.698. And I'm assuming since you're mostly in law and Gordian normal mode gear you'll probably need the acc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    That sounds awesome! Can't wait to get home from work and test it myself.
    Did A1/2/3 savage tonight and the difference is very noticable! Tbh, I've been cautiously optimistic, but I didn't expect it to be that good. No shuriken clipping at all anymore and double weaving ogcd's is also pretty smooth, my dps also went up quite a bit. Also things like passing digititus in A3 and passing tethers, as well as insta teleporting back in after first washaway are way smoother now. I am happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    yep hopeful 3.1 makes raiton more worth using outside of the spots you mentioned in the previous posts
    The math behind these situations is based on zero latency and on animation lock alone, so no, if there's no foes and/or guaranteed kassatsu crit, shuriken will always be the way to go unfortunately.

    Quote Originally Posted by CotaBota View Post
    Soo the jutsu fix is officially implemented for the EU data center, and raiton still clips GCD? Or is it just from the difference in ping?
    See above. Raiton will always clip due to animation lock, it's just that mudra lag obviously makes it worse. It is not possible to not clip raiton for the same reason it is not possible to triple weave ogcd's, even if they all have a 0,5s activation timer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meow9000 View Post
    Am I losing damage by losing 64 det on my 180 pants by going to the gordian 190 set? I get 8 dex but 64 det is a lot to lose too. All I gained was accuracy
    Solely based on current stat weights, no, you won't lose damage. i180 pants are 90,858 theoretical dex while i190 are 91,698, which is a difference you probably won't notice. It all comes down to if the additional acc on the i190 let's you wear more dps pieces in other slots. If not, I'd say just save up for the eso pants, they are ridiculously good and you could use your springs on a subjob where they may have better stats (i190 tank pants are awesome).

    edit: beaten by pluvia on the last one. ^^
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    Last edited by MrCookTM; 10-21-2015 at 07:13 AM.

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    EU Alexander Savage Hard Mode just turned into Savage only, finally we're playing the same game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    Did A1/2/3 savage tonight and the difference is very noticable! Tbh, I've been cautiously optimistic, but I didn't expect it to be that good. No shuriken clipping at all anymore and double weaving ogcd's is also pretty smooth, my dps also went up quite a bit. Also things like passing digititus in A3 and passing tethers, as well as insta teleporting back in after first washaway are way smoother now. I am happy.


    The math behind these situations is based on zero latency and on animation lock alone, so no, if there's no foes and/or guaranteed kassatsu crit, shuriken will always be the way to go unfortunately.



    See above. Raiton will always clip due to animation lock, it's just that mudra lag obviously makes it worse. It is not possible to not clip raiton for the same reason it is not possible to triple weave ogcd's, even if they all have a 0,5s activation timer.



    Solely based on current stat weights, no, you won't lose damage. i180 pants are 90,858 theoretical dex while i190 are 91,698, which is a difference you probably won't notice. It all comes down to if the additional acc on the i190 let's you wear more dps pieces in other slots. If not, I'd say just save up for the eso pants, they are ridiculously good and you could use your springs on a subjob where they may have better stats (i190 tank pants are awesome).

    edit: beaten by pluvia on the last one. ^^
    What I meant about that is hopefully the magic they have planed for 3.1 will make it somehow not clip.
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