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  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    The EU servers will be a straightup DPS increase for Ninjas, however nothing on our rotation changes. Ever wondered why so many people say Ninja DPS is fine? Because it is with <50ms.
    There might be a slight change depending on how good our latency becomes exactly, we might be able to fit Raiton in.
    Still will probably have to use tunnels to get really good mudra's(unless the 3.1 changes do something drastic) all depends on the routes I know I get a ping of about 35 to the servers in japan but still have to run a tunnel to get consistent mudras. I know Fold from elysium has to as well and he' also gets really good ping but a shit route
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    Unless you get the guaranteed kassatsu crit or foes is up, raiton is a dps loss even in the perfect world without any latency issues at all (this assuming slashing debuff is applied ofc), since it is not possible to not have raiton clip into the gcd simply because of animation lock. So the general rule of raiton with foes and/or after kassatsu and shuriken anywhere else doesn't change with good or bad latency. Less lag just means a dps increase in general, as it has already been stated.
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  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    Unless you get the guaranteed kassatsu crit or foes is up, raiton is a dps loss even in the perfect world without any latency issues at all (this assuming slashing debuff is applied ofc), since it is not possible to not have raiton clip into the gcd simply because of animation lock. So the general rule of raiton with foes and/or after kassatsu and shuriken anywhere else doesn't change with good or bad latency. Less lag just means a dps increase in general, as it has already been stated.
    True have this feeling though they're going to lower the recast time animation time of ninjutsu next patch as their magical fix so things may change
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    Last edited by Pluvia; 10-09-2015 at 09:18 PM.

  4. #284
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    Unless you get the guaranteed kassatsu crit or foes is up, raiton is a dps loss even in the perfect world without any latency issues at all (this assuming slashing debuff is applied ofc), since it is not possible to not have raiton clip into the gcd simply because of animation lock. So the general rule of raiton with foes and/or after kassatsu and shuriken anywhere else doesn't change with good or bad latency. Less lag just means a dps increase in general, as it has already been stated.
    True but with a latency of 100+ Raiton is a DPS loss no matter what, even with Kassatsu or Foes so with a better latency it might be viable for those situations. Heck even Fuma clips into EU GCD xD....
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    Does the Ninjitsu system get easier as you play? Because this seems confusing as fuck...
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  6. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaulScarreign View Post
    Does the Ninjitsu system get easier as you play? Because this seems confusing as fuck...
    Yes it gets alot easier as you play the job, it just takes a little getting used to.
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    Last edited by MrCookTM; 10-12-2015 at 10:36 PM.

  7. #287
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    Soo did any of the EU ninjas got to log in yet and check mudras? :3
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  8. #288
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    Noctis Shiva
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    well for me ( playing on ps4) its really better now, went from sometimes even fuma clipping and 3-4 secs suiton to raiton not clipping most of the time, and suiton still clipping but not that much ^^ testet it so far at a dummy on our house and in fractal on roulette^^
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  9. #289
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Mudras are now amazingly smooth. I passed from 125ms to 35ms and I could tell the difference from the very first huton.
    1) Fuma Shuriken doesn't clip into the GCD anymore;
    2) Dancing Edge's slashing resistance down debuff no longer goes off during the opening (not sure this was a common problem, but it happened to me) even when using kassatsu raiton instead of shuriken.
    For those playing MCH, it's now possible to weave oGCD skills during Rapid Fire without clipping into the GCD.
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  10. #290
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    That sounds awesome! Can't wait to get home from work and test it myself.

    Edit: Dervy basically confirms it: https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/2015/...a-mudra-fixed/
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    Last edited by MrCookTM; 10-20-2015 at 10:10 PM.

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