Reclamation of Inactive Housing announced

[BreathlessTao]

I just say: WTF?!?!1!
We're gonna lose our houses after a short amount of time - only 45days? Even for people who own a house not as a guild?!
Why not just add more housing areas? >_>
They could spin the map again at 90° and its a 3th one!

What about those people who CANT login due random stuff happen in real life?
- being in a hospital
- console or PC broke
- school/college/job stress

I wouldn't imagine a pile of pixels to be on your list of worries if you've got real life sh×t like those going on.
45 days is a long enough period of time; and yeah, well, you clearly have no idea of what "just adding more housing areas" entails, it's not as simple as just copy-pasting a picture. (Besides, it was said that they will eventually add more wards and this is only the first step in the housing-related plans.)


On a more general note: if you only play for the ~one month periods when new content is new and relevant - yeah, you shouldn't be hogging something that's as limited in availability as housing here turned out to be. Can't imagine why you even worry about that if you can't be bothered to actually be around once you've cleared the new content of the time.

[Neira]

I'm curious if an owner who elects to share a private house whether or not the timer will be reset if one of the people who they are sharing that house with enter the house.

Just thought I'd point this out for you.

Estates Subject to Demolishing
Private housing that has not been accessed by the owner within forty-five days.

[Sapphic]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...3e7ccabefa9954

No mention of 90 days anywhere in the NA version. Their mistake, not mine.

Step 1. A house is inactive for 45 days, it becomes subject to demolishing.
Step 2. House is subject to demolishing. after 30 additional days, notification etc. 45 days gets demolished.

Total days from last time someone used the house to being demolished. 90 days. 3 months.

Which allows players to keep their house, play for a month with each new update and take a 2 month break until the next one.

[KadajSynthesis]

When I checked the FFXIV page today, I was happy to get some new information on how reclemation will work. But when I read myself into it, all of my euphoria was gone.

So here we are, my girlfriend and I, having a rank 8 fc with a good amount of gil waiting to get handed over to SE in exchange for a ward. Sure, one has to give all those abandoned house owner a chance to come back, but it still feels like an endless amount of time - 90 days. Srsly, we are totally sure that some ppl will just get logged in with their twinks, who are still in some dead fc, just to still have that ward as a backup. And even if they dont read the news belonging to this reclamation thing, they will get 2 mails - more than enough to just think "Oh wow, I will just wait for the final day, sub again (or just login with twink) and then I have another 90 days, but paid only for 1 month (or even for none)." - yep, seems totally fair.
Next thing is: All those dead fcs will get mails from SE. So there might be one clever guy thinking "Wait, my whole fc is not online anymore? Means if I am the one to login first, fc lead will be passed to me and I will have a house and a fc (members will be deleted) all for myself while I have paid like 100 gil for the house. Nice!"
There will be so many ways people can use to avoid that reclemation.

So lets put it this way: We have a completely broken, bloodspilled arm with lots of cuts and all SE can do is give us a small plaster (I am sure it is printed with some minions and/or other stuff you can buy at the Mogry shop) but not before pouring lots of salt onto the arm - in this case with implementing new stuff for houseowners (airship exploration and so on) in the next patches.

Maybe SE should think of listening to the players when it comes up to housing, as I read peoples opinions in here kinda often and most people tell us that there are mmos having a better way of house handling. To be honest, I only played TERA which has no housing system at all (okay, at least if you not belong to the 10 best guilds on server), so I dont know how other mmos handle that, but I read a lot about instanced housing and for me, this feels like the better choice.
One could have like 6-8 different "wallpapers" they can choose from and those define what the landscape around your house looks like. Maybe there will be even the choice to define the size via slider and as bigger it gets, as more expensive it will become.
I dont know, something like this, everything is better than what it is now.
SE wants the neighbourhood to be a place of social interaction? Srsly, whenever I visit those wards, I never see anybody hanging around there - lets face it: Limsa and so one are the places to be if you want to emote, read bs from other chars and what else somebody wants.

I am playing FFXIV since 11/2013 now - but I took a break of like 6 months before HW came out - and there were so many things that Yoshi promised us and that I havent seen yet nor where they mentioned again in any way, that I am okay with being just the dick paying SE for their inability. But with HW things get far worse than I expected. When we came back be decided to start with completely new chars and we worked us back up, not knowing what to expect from an expansion, that "offers so much more than most usual full-price games" - but even if one has lowered his expectations, one gets disappointed again.
2 dungeons to choose from when it comes up to tome farming, 2 primals with one of it just being nonsense to do as the gear you get is obsolete. Alexander seems to be kinda easy too as many players refer to it as "not even worthy to be compared with coils" and so on. Sure, flying mounts are pretty cool, but if thats the only thing one likes, things feel kinda bad.

I dont know what I am hoping for in the future, but I guess it will be even less than what I was hoping for before I read the first things about 3.1. Hey, maybe I will just stand around, watching guys talking about all housing stuff and how good it is and thats it. Thanks SE - for nothing, I guess.

[TheUltimate3]

This is a fun thread.

It is quite literally a "no win" situation for SE (and really SE alone).

This system is not perfect, but considering how plots are handled it is the best they got when dealing with abandoned plots. Yes I (and I assume SE) understand life happens that can keep you away from the game. No, that doesn't mean one can just hold on to limited space for an indefinite amount of time when there are other, active, players who could also want that plot.

They obviously can't just make more plots because if they would we wouldn't be having this discussion. Nor can they just remove the housing wards all together because there are people are active year-round with plots and they shouldn't lose their space.

Really their best bet to at the very least make the most people happy is to just develop an apartment style system. Keep the housing wards as the premium spaces, but develop a welfare housing area that use as little server space as possible (personal rooms, inns, ect). Keep the demolish thing as they have presented, because seriously if you aren't logging in even once for 3 months then you probably don't need a house. The only consideration I have is that this should have been done when housing was released so people would know before hand. But now they do and them the breaks.

[Catwho]

FYI: You can edit a single post to get past the 1000 character limit.

I actually like having my neighborhood to myself. My FC house is in an active, busy ward with lots of silly shout conversations going on all the time. It's very much a social place. My personal house is in a dead neighborhood, and I rarely see anyone. I have the Brimming Heart to myself, and I can sit there and craft with the waterfall at my back in solitude. I might be willing to trade that to get rid of the eye sore of the lot that was purchased but was never built that is right beside me. However, I suspect my neighborhood is going to stay quiet all the same.

[karateorangutang]

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Your post is fine, but im gonna save you some flames. If you make a post then edit it you can break the 1000 char limit.

[StouterTaru]

Solution 1: Dynamic ward system that guarantees that everyone will get a house, EVEN if they are evicted for inactivity (LOTRO)
Solution 2: Everyone gets a private house instance, FCs get a guaranteed instanced FC house, could even pay to upgrade this type (Wildstar)
Solution 3: Everyone gets a private room in a capital city of their choosing that is accessible from the Inn (It's already in the game, they'd literally just need to move the door to the Inn)

1 - Everyone having a house in a dynamic system would require thousands of times the current server capacity, unless you greatly change what a house is, ex snap to grid furniture and 90 degree rotations. It would require a substantial downgrade to what housing is.
2/3 - Removing open world housing "punishes" active players instead of "punishing" inactive players. We paid for our Barbie dream house with the promise of being able to play with it outside, not locked away in the closet.

Just because you think those ideas would be better, doesn't mean they are even close to perfect.

[Dree-Elle]

Keep the housing wards as the premium spaces, but develop a housing area that use as little server space as possible.

This would hopefully satisfy all those clamoring for "instanced housing", but also ensure that those of us who actually enjoy being part of a living, breathing, dynamic virtual world have the opportunity to continue doing so.

[KadajSynthesis]

FYI: You can edit a single post to get past the 1000 character limit.

I actually like having my neighborhood to myself. My FC house is in an active, busy ward with lots of silly shout conversations going on all the time. It's very much a social place. My personal house is in a dead neighborhood, and I rarely see anyone. I have the Brimming Heart to myself, and I can sit there and craft with the waterfall at my back in solitude. I might be willing to trade that to get rid of the eye sore of the lot that was purchased but was never built that is right beside me. However, I suspect my neighborhood is going to stay quiet all the same.

Your post is fine, but im gonna save you some flames. If you make a post then edit it you can break the 1000 char limit.

Thank you guys, was my first time writing a long text in here, so its nice to know that