What is Zodiark?

[Kaiser-Ace]

Getting back on the topics of darkness...

People were talking about the allagan empire and how the stagnation of their society may be an example of the "flood of light" that require a Warrior of Darkness to push back. But it seems the Ascians are unique in their own role...unless we count archons and their machinations (the scions) as entities designed with maintaining the status quo of power.

Ascians are the "Harbingers of Chaos" which means that they are neither light nor Darkness. So The WoL and WoD both are little more than pawns for the Chaos.

[Fenral]

Ascians are the "Harbingers of Chaos" which means that they are neither light nor Darkness. So The WoL and WoD both are little more than pawns for the Chaos.

Remember that the factions of light and darkness in Dissidia are led by Cosmos (order) against Chaos (chaos). While "balance" certainly sounds like contributing to the side of order, it is more like a balance between the controlled and uncontrolled elements in the world. Because that element is, by nature, uncontrollable, conflict is born and the balance wavers, but that conflict is what allows both sides to grow. Ending it in a total victory for either side would be the same as ending life, at least as we know it.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Ascians are the "Harbingers of Chaos" which means that they are neither light nor Darkness. So The WoL and WoD both are little more than pawns for the Chaos.

I'm not so sure about the "harbingers of Chaos" meaning they're neither light nor darkness. I think they're Harbingers of Chaos, yes, but in a world governed by Hydaelyn, because they seek to destroy her. In a world governed by Zodiark, they might be the guys that enforce "Harmony", meaning the guy that prevents their god and actual ruler of the world to be defeated.

Ascians seem closely related to Zodiark... They're not really fond of Elidibus, but they're allied to him for a while (Especially Lahabrea, which seems to be the Ascians' leader, even though he's not always listened to), so they're not Chaos, while Elidibus would be Harmony, which he really seems to represent.

Ascians are, in my opinion, the equivalent of scions of the Dark Side. Yes, they are really powerful, immortal and so, many things that the scions aren't, but they've been here for centuries. It wasn't on this thread, but I read a theory, the other day, saying that Ascians may have been WoL or WoD once, and that the power they gained made them the way they are now. I think it's oversimplifying, but I also think it may hold a part of the truth...

I can't picture Ascians not related to Zodiark, as I can't picture Minfillia not related to Hydaelyn.