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    Quote Originally Posted by Ercapote View Post
    how PARSERS are no needed?
    Trial and Error.

    Any serious world firster would agree with me that it wouldn't be impossible to complete these fights, it would however probably take much longer, and more theorycraft beforehand instead of letting the parsers do the heavy mathmatical lifting. Optimal Rotiations don't need parsers to figure out it just as stated before makes it much easier to do.

    Parsers are conveint no doubt, they are powerfull tools for sure. Are they required?

    Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Trial and Error.

    Any serious world firster would agree with me that it wouldn't be impossible to complete these fights, it would however probably take much longer, and more theorycraft beforehand instead of letting the parsers do the heavy mathmatical lifting. Optimal Rotiations don't need parsers to figure out it just as stated before makes it much easier to do.

    Parsers are conveint no doubt, they are powerfull tools for sure. Are they required?

    Nope.
    how do you think theory crafters craft? my men seriously choose more carefully your words as you keep contradicting yourself...

    I replied to you on a update from my last post.

    and I undesrtand that with time fight will get easier and the use of parsers aren't needed....but when they fight are open and you are doing content with the lower ilvl possible and you are running to get those WORLD FIRST or just beat the fight in general then yes you need those parsers... that's why I said it's a must if we are to change the settig to our likes then we can say we don't need 8 man sisnce in the future we will be able to solo content...but that's not how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ercapote View Post
    how do you think theory crafters craft?
    How did they do it before parsers?

    You can disagree with me all you want but just because calculators exist doesn't mean you lost the abillity to do math yourself.

    Just because something makes it easier does not mean it's a requirement.

    Look you love parsers we get it, but don't run around telling people it's a requirement when it isn't. Is it required to be taken seriously in the endgame community? Now that's a different statement entirely and due to the current social climate within the game and people obviously wanting to take the path of least resistance in what is admitadly a gruelingly difficult set of DPS checks of course that is a entirely different thing.

    Would savage be beaten by now without parsers? I'm not sure I imagine it would have taken longer mainly for people to manually parse their data. Will I point my thumb down at raiders who parse? of course not it's a usefull tool for them and their goals, do I support a personal parser? Yes I do I feel it would help the game populace in general with a 0 downside for raiders or players if anything I encourage the game to reward players for being able to produce results for reaching milestones.

    Does this make your statements any less wrong? No they don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ercapote View Post
    snip.
    Your obviously oblivious to the point I'm trying to make I'll stop trying to explain it and leave you with it. parsers are not "Required" they are an amazing tool nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    snip.
    how they did it? they didn't.... parser has been around since EQ1 era and that's a looooong time and well as it has been on ff14 for a loong time too it's nothing new, and if you seriusly thinking someone can manually parser you should go back ans see how a parser work and what they do my man.

    Man... are you contradicting yourself on purpose?

    you keep saying my point is wrong, yet you failed to explain how I'm wrong. And I'm not disagreeing with you my man, you are disagreeing with me, my point stand valid and strong with back up validation and information something you keep failing at telling and proving me why I'm wrong. instead you keep bouncing on this nonsense sea of "I don't even know what point you are trying to proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    parsers are not "Required" they are an amazing tool nothing else.
    technically -no, theoretically -yes, practically -hell yes!

    btw thinking back

    if you read back to my other post you will see that I agreed with what you where "trying to say" I'll quote here so you can see it.

    "and I undesrtand that with time fight will get easier and the use of parsers aren't needed....but when they fight are open and you are doing content with the lower ilvl possible and you are running to get those WORLD FIRST or just beat the fight in general then yes you need those parsers... that's why I said it's a must if we are to change the settig to our likes then we can say we don't need 8 man sisnce in the future we will be able to solo content...but that's not how it works."

    and as the lady said... that was not the topic of my post nor is the topic of this post. so with anything I need to add toward you let's keep this on topic.
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