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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    "This is very counter productive no dungeon should take 45mins cause you choose to play selfishly.."

    No one should feel they have the right to tell another person how to play in a game the other person is paying for. THAT is selfishness.


    This spin doctored version that was created by the elitist of ffxi needed to die with ffxi.

    TL;DR Dont tell me how to play. Leave or kick me from the group. But be ready to deal with a GM after I report you for kicking me for a non-supported reason.
    Also if you are going to try and use the trite excuse of "i pay my sub for this" think about this, its 3 people paying sub vs 1, you gimp your performance deliberately, then you get kicked.
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 10-18-2015 at 05:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    Also if you are going to try and use the trite excuse of "i pay my sub for this" think about this, its 3 people paying sub vs 1, you gimp your performance deliberately, then you get kicked.
    SE doesnt see it that way, however.

    Please refrain from encouraging others to break the ToS by abusing the vote kick function. ^^;
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    Last edited by Shirobi; 10-20-2015 at 10:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    SE doesnt see it that way, however.

    Please refrain from encouraging others to break the ToS by abusing the vote kick function. ^^;
    I am not. Please refrain from absolutely ridiculous public accusation like this that are entirely untrue and unfounded.

    Difference in playstyle is a legitimate reason to kick people as far as i am aware. If someone is deliberately gimping their performance to the detriment of the group it can be classed as either difference in playstyle or even harassment.
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 10-20-2015 at 11:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    SE doesnt see it that way, however.

    Please refrain from encouraging others to break the ToS by abusing the vote kick function. ^^;
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...28#post2358628

    The reasons for dismissal are not all encompassing, which means that there may be valid reasons for dismissal outside of those four examples. Good examples of this that have been provided in this thread are the refusal to fulfill one's job function.
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    As for kicking bards for intentionally gimping their damage? That's just plain stupid. A bard not using WM because they feel the dps boost isn't worth the downsides with it isn't instantly a jerk who wants to slow you down. You're looking at extremest and grouping everyone with them.

    It's like saying tanks shouldn't be allowed to use STR accessories because that's not how they were intended to be played. Should a tank intentionally taking more damage and having less HP be kicked from the group for not playing as intended? No? Then neither should a bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimikoDelsia View Post
    As for kicking bards for intentionally gimping their damage? That's just plain stupid. A bard not using WM because they feel the dps boost isn't worth the downsides with it isn't instantly a jerk who wants to slow you down. You're looking at extremest and grouping everyone with them.

    It's like saying tanks shouldn't be allowed to use STR accessories because that's not how they were intended to be played. Should a tank intentionally taking more damage and having less HP be kicked from the group for not playing as intended? No? Then neither should a bard.
    No one said anything about kicking a BRD for not using WM. If a BRD is doing so poorly that people are considering a kick, then chances are, they'll do poorly with WM anyway. Playing deliberately bad falls into the realms of auto-attacking and afk-netflixing during a pull, or the straight up refusal to dps at all.

    And also, strength accessories don't make tanks take extra damage.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 10-21-2015 at 02:33 PM.
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