Four Ways to Die - why the Tank Meta feels "off".

[Tilgung]

Except it really isn't an anomaly. There's already precedence in at least one previous MMO where gearing to absolute tankiness wasn't the best option. And considering it was this games predecessor, I'm not surprised it wormed itself in here. Intentionally or not.

We've got concrete defensive cooldown rotations and decently planned out healing rotations. The fact of the matter is, we've got near exact amounts of HP necessary to perform as well as needed and going over it is technically a waste of stat points.

[SpookyGhost]

We've got concrete defensive cooldown rotations and decently planned out healing rotations. The fact of the matter is, we've got near exact amounts of HP necessary to perform as well as needed and going over it is technically a waste of stat points.

The problem is less that these exist (as they're bound to), but moreso that the HP threshold for Savage content is easily met... without even using VIT accessories at low ilvl... or tank stance... or even crafted accessories sometimes. It's honestly a bit ridiculous what you can get away with as a tank in 3.0, more than previous raid content even. Maybe it's tuned so loosely because it's the first raid of the expansion? I hope that's the case at least.

[Awful]

We've got concrete defensive cooldown rotations and decently planned out healing rotations. The fact of the matter is, we've got near exact amounts of HP necessary to perform as well as needed and going over it is technically a waste of stat points.

The problem is there's no point to using fending pieces at all tanks who are doing Alex Savage look at fending off pieces and go meh. There's also no active mitigation, parry is crap, there's no dodging, you can block as a pld but there's no way to get +block from gear or block str other than shields (idk how it scales either). I only go slaying because that's the meta I don't like it but what can I do, i'm slowly not playing my tank as much except for raids and that's about it. It's just not as exciting dying because of strict DPS checks because we didn't get that extra bit of dps, i'd rather SE focus on actual defensive stats on items. But that would mean they have to fix mitigation, skills, redesign stats on items it's a lot of work I just feel like a DPS that has a big sword that gets hit hard every 60 seconds or so, because even with full slaying the extra hp and worthless parry in fending gear is disregarded.

It's just bizarre to me that i'm a tank but I have to be on par with other dps? I'm an old school MMO player I used to be a protection paladin on WoW, Lancer in TERA, the only other game where you're a DPS tank is Aion being a Templar/Gladiator. Prot paladins had amazing AoE and blocked everything being a real great tank, lancers stopped EVERYTHING big stomp? Massive shield block. Enemy charging? Send em back flying. Aions tanking was "okay" because there were some elements of being tanky the game wasn't yelling at you to be a better dps just a better tank. It honestly makes me sad that when I run an expert and I do more dps than say a Bard, Dragoon whatever and i'm sitting there in my tank stance being yelled at for wearing str accs when if I go fending i'll still get laughed at. I just feel that tanks are in a very awkward situation that the community is torn in 2 or even more possible ways and I just hope that there's something for say an old school meat shield or a strong battle hardened tank that does dmg actively.

Sorry for the rant this is my favorite thread in here I hope it gets some love and that people can give more feedback I love reading everything in here it's all very interesting to me.