parse for ps4 users !

[Azazua_azura]

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I'm not even saying that. I just know from experience what happens when ingame parser is added, ppl have e-peen constest on who can top dps

@ sirdarts

What you are failing to understand is the replies you the questions. As any raider keeps forgetting, you can't factually say people don't care about dps/how well people play in DF. From personal experience people do care. I was also stating personal opinion. People keep stating their is nothing to aid in their improvement, when that isn't true. Infact how parser get their data is where it comes from, the battle log.

@ jamain

my info/stuiff has never been about raiding, but the wish/will to improve your class. All a parser does it make the battke log info "easier to read" << subjective. Also your mixing up rotattion with adpaptation not your rotation isn't really changing persay but you are picking what part you use due to the mobs movements

Also I raided in ff11 for a lil but this was before windower and parser might i add, and people was clearing content, and the raids I did ha did have dps checks, as did some hnm. Alot of the prime avatar fights were a dps check cuz prior to gear additions all hell broke loose after the avatar used their 2 hr. Infact 1 raid syustem in ff11 called dynamis was initself a dps check cuz you had a limit time to clear it before you existed with only geting a few time exstentions. Pretty much you had to kill waves of mobs + mini boss mobs to pop the main boss which had to be kills or raid was a bust now granted this was before enrage timers were added in ff11,



and the argument is more people picking between a hammer and a nailgun

If you gonna use some non game related anology try to make sure you use a correct one Parser data come from the battle log, which does have chat log text connected to it. Parser just amakes the info "easier to read" by collectively presenting it as a damage per second ratio.

Also you do kinda gotta understansd that alot of ppl did infact comre from WoW which had crazy addons, which did infact tell you how to play. Ones that told you ur rotation for any given fight/spec, one told you where to stand in certain bosses/ mechanics, ones that told you to not stand in fire.

People got used to those addons and possible not used to playing w/o them here.

Also do kee-p in mind that I do know what I am talking about, i just have a hard time expressing it cuz of my Austism spectrum stuff. :/

Not fun, trying to share my opinion or give sound advice (which isn't bad advice as that was how this were done in early gaming) and being treated like crap over it.

The thing is though if you add tools to the game people will use them, it wouldn't matter if it was df, pf, raid content,non-raid content. People will use it to exclude players they find as bad in the eyes of what the tool says. It does happen already, I can't tell you how many times I have seen people kicked or belittled about how they play even when content is being cleared. Like i said before I was kicked out of neverreap though we was clearing it when i didn't put dots on 1 mob set.

I was put on blast as a fresh tank for not pulling fast enough.

You guys need to go back to history class on how humans think, we have no trouble excluding anyone for any reason.
It is also in poor taste to witch hunt people for "being carried" as long as the person isn't afk that are participating.

For me personally numbers in a game are arbitrary, as long as the mobs hp goes down at a decent rate i could care less about each party members personal dps.

the only thing that bugs me is when players are undergeared or use off role gear. (more talking archers with mage gear) which is basics of rpg. And even then i try to be nice about it abd only kick the person if they have a bad attitude.

Dps comes from an multiple factors: gear, stats, experience. Players who put out high numbers are those who are well geared, have good understanding of their job/role, and know the content extremely well. As in they are geared for the content know what to use, when to use it. They know when and where to dodge for all attacks.'

Players who pull low number's chances are they are still learning their job/role, still learning the content. But also some other factores as their net speed/ system set up may not be the greatest. In worst case senario, they are trolling or lazy.

I don't want ingame parser because I do not want to see the community turn into WoWs or DCUO or heck ff11 from 2009-2011, and become exlusionary even in df content, which would happen, anyone who denies this fact really shelters themselves from the rest of the community or didn't play enough mmo to notice.

And for me, i DISPISE being "carried" i think it is a hit in the taco to be carriedn, cuz i pride myself in being a gamer.

@ jamein

just a quick bit of info, you can't really judge the "top raiders" as "top dps" << subjective. For all you know the top dos players are non raiders on console, and just simply don't give a dam. Just because i don't use a parser (though i have used 1 before which you kinda keep missing) doesn't mean i don't know how they work. Thing is anything user-made is up to scrutiny. For all you know every parser you ever used has been incorrect based on improper coding, i personally would never take anything user made for face value.
Proof of that has been found from incorrect calculations of stat caps, to different parsers giving different numbers.

I rather get my info from the official battle log text over unofficial parser.