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  1. #61
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    Dree-Elle's Avatar
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    Dree Elle
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Anyone who played White Knight Chronicles 1 & 2 on PS3 may remember that an entire tier of content was cancelled outside of Japan, though no one knows why. Inevitably players found out, got angry and left the game. SCEA/D3/Level 5 decided to kill the game outside Japan using the excuse that there was not enough revenue; the servers were shut down in less than 2 years, leaving the remaining players bitter towards the publisher (less so to the developer).
    It is a betrayal felt still, to this day. I know, because I was there too (not that anyone remembers).

    Playing though that from Day One to premature sunset is my entire justification for purchasing through the Mog Station. Whether or not the money goes directly back into XIV or another SE game, it's going to games, and to me, in the end, that's what counts. Though, for what it's worth, I both bemoan the cancellation of Wonderflick, and await more news on Level-5's PS4 game.
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  2. #62
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    Kyuuen's Avatar
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    Kyuuen Queles
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Oh the inhumanity! They're charging for emotes; that are irrelevant to the play of the game, HOW DARE THEY!?

    If they were charging for increased chance of power drops (Weapons or Armor), paying for specific power ups (Weapons, Armor, increase of stats, ammo, etc etc), or paying for raid clears, then I could understand people bitching. As it is now however, there is no relevancy for complaint, especially considering that nothing that they are selling is altering game play or giving some sort of unfair advantage.
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    Last edited by Kyuuen; 10-15-2015 at 07:28 AM. Reason: grammar/spelling

  3. #63
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    Khalith Mateo
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    The best models for cash shops are in Firefall and Neverwinter. The way they are designed, you can take currency earned through gameplay and turn it in to currency that you can use to buy items in the cash shop, thus everything in those cash shops is obtainable eventually if you're patient and grind enough without spending any real money. As far as I'm concerned, every MMO needs that.
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  4. #64
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    /fistbump
    /bombdance
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  5. #65
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    Gokuhan's Avatar
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    Gokuhan Kai
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    Siren
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    My biggest issue with "retired" seasonal gear being cash shop only is that it happened without any warning. Early on when the even would come around for the 2nd time you COULD buy last years gear, then all of a sudden they started up the cash shop and if you had said "I'm busy now, I'll pick it up next year" you are SOL.
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  6. #66
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    i play white knight chroncle 1 and 2
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  7. #67
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dree-Elle View Post
    It is a betrayal felt still, to this day. I know, because I was there too (not that anyone remembers).
    I remember and feel the betrayal too...you are not alone. There are another 5-6 members of my Free Company who were there at the end of WKC as well, they remember.

    I still remember standing in our guild town on the last night as people left. I was, as it were, the captain staying with the ship as it sank. ...feeling melancholy all of a sudden....

    Playing though that from Day One to premature sunset is my entire justification for purchasing through the Mog Station. Whether or not the money goes directly back into XIV or another SE game, it's going to games, and to me, in the end, that's what counts.
    I agree.

    Though, for what it's worth, I both bemoan the cancellation of Wonderflick, and await more news on Level-5's PS4 game.
    I haven't heard a peep from them, so I don't know whether to hold out hope or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    i play white knight chroncle 1 and 2
    Behemoth has a fair number of ex-WKC players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    i glad you still play ffxiv kosmos
    Oh yes, I do. My story progress is stalled due to RL issues (waiting for my wife to be able to play again), but I enjoy the rest of the game, so I am there.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 10-15-2015 at 07:49 AM.

  8. #68
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    i glad you still play ffxiv kosmos
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  9. #69
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    All these people against the non-pay-to-win, extremely low priced, vanity ffxiv cash-shop have something else going on or some ulterior motive. All their arguments are illogical.

    As for me i feel the Cash-Shop is extremely low key. I've been demanding for SE franchise vanity costumes, hairstyles, and mounts from tomb raider, ff1-12 and they refuse to give in to my reasonable demands. "look i want to give you cash for tifa lockhart's hairstyle." SE:"we dont want your money, and you cant have tifa's hair."

    So the reason for the cash shop? It's aiming for the frequent on and off subscribers that go "lol ill just skip this month because they will give it to me next year or ill scream bloody murder on the forums about cash-shop greed"

    "I pay a subscription! i should have free access to all these past event/vanity items"
    uh... yeah... you obviously weren't paying a subscription when said items were available, otherwise you would have them! (special conditions apply)

    "emotes! NOT FAIR!"
    You had your fair chance to obtain emotes, just like everyone else, but for ^^^reasons^^^, pay your dues.

    "They should make the dyes available ingame!"
    Of all the dyes, 97% of it is available to you ingame for no extra charge. Luxury dyes are a luxury.
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    Last edited by KaedrianLiang; 10-15-2015 at 08:04 AM.

  10. #70
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang View Post
    All these people against the non-pay-to-win, extremely low priced, vanity ffxiv cash-shop have something else going on or some ulterior motive. All their arguments are illogical.
    You got me, I'm secretly trying to usurp Yoshi-P's position and I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling Giant Dads!
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