Forgekeep vs Forgemaster

[Lastelli]

i170 Master chest piece - 225 craft / 70 control / 4 CP
i180 Keep chest piece - 239 craft / 75 control / 4 CP
i170 Master chest piece with practical melds - 253 craft / 78 control / 4 CP (2 Craftsmanship V, 1 Craftsmanship IV, 2 Control IV)

Keep in mind for the practical melds, I'm assuming we're in 3.1 and SE has implemented a reasonable way to acquire tier V crafting materia.

Well...those practical melds are unaffordable for most crafters out there. Control IV is around 100k on my server...melding two of them with about 7% success rate is something I'm not even going to consider (we're probably talking about 10mln gil of lost materia there).
Actually I feel like the MH is the only lvl180 crafing gear that it's worth your red tokens.

[blueruckus]

Well...those practical melds are unaffordable for most crafters out there. Control IV is around 100k on my server...melding two of them with about 7% success rate is something I'm not even going to consider (we're probably talking about 10mln gil of lost materia there).
Actually I feel like the MH is the only lvl180 crafing gear that it's worth your red tokens.

How much is Control III on your server? The price difference is pretty massive on my server between III and IV. If you use two III instead of two IV you're missing out on 2 control (nothing major at all).

[_Kakera_]

you're missing out on 2 control (nothing major at all).

But that's silly, since if you lose 2 control then you end up with 76 control, as opposed to the i180 which has 75. It's 1 more control for however much gil again? You do get 14 craft, but is 14 craft + 1 control worth potentially millions of gil? And for that purpose, is 14 craft + 3 control worth it as well? I feel like they just want us to craft the i170 gear to dye it and that's it, because you can't dye the scrips gear. And that's really stupid because you can dye the gathering red scrips gear, since you can't craft any of it. It's such a gigantic price for what ultimately is just... a tiny difference in stats, and the ability to dye it. Same for the requirement of AS3 to be to dye DoW/M gear as well, is dying gear worth that much of a hassle?

[Sollux]

I feel like they just want us to craft the i170 gear to dye it and that's it, because you can't dye the scrips gear.

You seem to forget that Glamour is and has always been the TRUE Endgame.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

You seem to forget that Glamour is and has always been the TRUE Endgame.

Yup! haha!!!

[PROBOUND]

but is 14 craft + 1 control worth potentially millions of gil?
And for that purpose, is 14 craft + 3 control worth it as well?
is dying gear worth that much of a hassle?

YES, YES, and HELL YES! Your in the wrong section of the Forum if you think otherwise.