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  1. #31
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    Odds_Ends's Avatar
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    Zana Jawantall
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I like the system a lot.
    Much more fun to do the dungeons this way than the "wow-way" to just speed through them with an friend that is high level.
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  2. #32
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I think the issue is tanks not having access to their main aggro holding skills. I know for a fact Dark Knight is gimped like no tomorrow pre 35 since you don't have blood price. But outside of that they eventually will have to alter the skills you get in older dungeons for later on...
    In my experience Drk is still much better off than Pld sub 35. At least they still have unleash.

    I practically had to spam flash to hold hate off two thaumaturges in Tam-Tara the other day. I may be new to tanking but I'm pretty sure that's not how it's supposed to be done.

    It didn't help that one of them decided (after I told him it was my first time tanking!) that going ham the second I start running toward a mob was a great idea. And all he had to help him was fire II. I don't want to think about trying to hold off a Blm who's casting a full L60 rotation when I have a grand total of 3 hate generating abilities, one of which is second in a combo. :/
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    Last edited by Avidria; 10-07-2015 at 10:03 PM.

  3. #33
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    This is exactly why. The current sync doesn't do a perfect job, so we still end up much more powerful as a synced 60 than we would be in the best gear we had available at the dungeon's level.
    Because someone who is not synched don't have the perfect gear (capped on the max. ilevel of the dungeon). If the tank do Sastasha with a ilevel 16 weapon and all the other gear is between ilevel 14 and 17, then it shouldn't be a wounder that he can't hold aggro good against someone who have ilevel 19 (or whatever the max is in Sastasha) in all slots because of ilevel-synch with all the stats on cap (for the new ilevel). The tank would need the best gear for his level with materias in it.

    The way to fix it is very easy. Reduce the maximal level of the dungeons.
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-07-2015 at 10:43 PM.

  4. #34
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Arch Idealist
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 100
    I dislike grey skills as much as any other, but we have to keep new players in mind. It would be really dreadful for them to do the content while being at such disadvantage.

    On the matter of tank stance - I don't know why tanks get so late in the game. They can tank since level 15, so they should have it since level 15. No matter how easy the content is, it is too harsh for tanks. Not to mention paladin's lack of aoe...

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The way to fix it is very easy. Reduce the maximal level of the dungeons.
    But then we would have higher level players crying that it takes too long to finish...
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  5. #35
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    Jamillion's Avatar
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    Dude, I'd be ecstatic if they just fixed syncing so it wouldn't turn off persistent buffs when they're available at the level you get synced to.
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  6. #36
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    I dislike grey skills as much as any other, but we have to keep new players in mind. It would be really dreadful for them to do the content while being at such disadvantage.

    On the matter of tank stance - I don't know why tanks get so late in the game. They can tank since level 15, so they should have it since level 15. No matter how easy the content is, it is too harsh for tanks. Not to mention paladin's lack of aoe...
    Shield Oath should come at 15 with half the effect it has later, and then a trait could bump it to it's full effect.

    Shield swipe should be made a small frontal cone (it is a swipe after all), and contribute to the enmity multiplier so it can be woven into your combos.
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  7. #37
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    I practically had to spam flash to hold hate off two thaumaturges in Tam-Tara the other day. I may be new to tanking but I'm pretty sure that's not how it's supposed to be done.
    That's pretty much exactly how it's done.
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  8. #38
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    That's pretty much exactly how it's done.
    Well that's unfortunate. :/
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  9. #39
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by pushin_tin View Post
    I don't think level synced players care about how old content is tuned.
    It's not done for the sake of the level-synced players. It's for the sake of the regular on-level players who are partied with them. If higher leveled players had access to all their high level skills (even if some of those skills had a nerfed potency), there's no way an on-level player who doesn't even have those skills, at any potency, would be a match for them.

    It's already bad enough that level sync doesn't really drop stats down to where they would be for on-level players. If not even the available skills were synced, there would be no way for any on-level player to actually take part in a dungeon unless they found an entire team of other on-level players to run it with.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 10-08-2015 at 05:00 AM.

  10. #40
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
    World
    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 60
    While I don't necessarily think the system should be changed, I play on PS4 and set my hotbar up a certain way for ease at my current level, like I don't have blizz 1 on my PVE bar, and then im in for halatali NM or some low level GHR.... XD
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