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    Mclyde's Avatar
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    Ingrid Krimhilde
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    The problem is not their survability. It's the fact that they can just choose one guy, and decide to kill him in 5 sec at 25m while moving.
    It's "very sad" for them to have to use there stacks for that, but... one guy just died without even facing his attacker.
    Is that a japanese conception of pvp ? As long as your team win it's not important to be killed some times without possibilities to counter ?

    Same thing for melee limit break. I'm 15m away when the animation of the lb is done i'm still OS. That's true skill man.

    Warriors are quit independant in pvp but you can kite them or at least have some times to fight back. Even kill them if Push back is not up at that moment.
    They are melee and supposed to be first attackers, it's normal they are tough.

    Seriously... i'm used to deal with unbalance in mmo pvp. There are always... but concerning summoners it's exagerated.

    I wonder what they say about it in Japanese section. They already remove CS from the healers cause they found it OP. Now that pvp is "popular" again with frontline, they may consider nerf them a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mclyde View Post
    They already remove CS from the healers cause they found it OP. Now that pvp is "popular" again with frontline, they may consider nerf them a little.
    Do not assume that summoner being powerful vs bad players in a casual game mode is remotely the same as cleric stance, CS turned a healing, ccing tanking machine into a healing, ccing, tanking, high damage machine

    FL is not the place to determine if summoners need to be nerfed, WD is where that will happen and not a moment earlier

    I wonder what they say about it in Japanese section
    A mix of people complaining that its overpowered and should be removed, with alot of others arguing that it either doesnt need to be changed, or everyone should wat for wolves den (alot of them saying that they just have tanks nuke the summoner)
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    Last edited by CeveArthu; 10-05-2015 at 05:01 AM.

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    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Mclyde View Post
    The problem is not their survability. It's the fact that they can just choose one guy, and decide to kill him in 5 sec at 25m while moving.
    I do the same thing on MCH. Only probelm wiith MCH burst is ricochet hitting other targets.

    Perhaps MCH should be nerfed for being a range with a burst. lol.
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I pvp as a SMN cause ppl simply do nothing to stop me lol

    Tri disater and they run why not purify yourself and kill me without dots I have to do like what 3 pain flares to get DWT+deathflare...

    Or the ppl who run back into the mass group of their GC ppl lol that's like giving a SMN everything they want...these are amongst the many mistakes ppl always make during pvp because SMNs are easy to kill I guess this is one of the elitist moments where they say "git gud" I believe
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Diabolos
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    I do the same thing on MCH. Only probelm wiith MCH burst is ricochet hitting other targets.

    Perhaps MCH should be nerfed for being a range with a burst. lol.
    Do you really play mch? Cause um yes they already do incur a nerf in PVP so what are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    Do you really play mch? Cause um yes they already do incur a nerf in PVP so what are you talking about?
    and it really isnt hard to stay within the outer sweet spot to keep most of that damage

    stragius is making a joke that everyone wants smn nerfed, but mch has a larger burst in a shorter time so according to the thread it should also get nerfed
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    Last edited by CeveArthu; 10-05-2015 at 05:02 PM.