To all the flames on primal datacenter...

[Kinseykinz]

I've never seen it get quit that bad. I don't think I've ever been part of a group that has actively spawn camped. However, I have been part of a group that has intentionally focused Adders because they harassed us to the point where we couldn't take it any more. Especially if it gets to the point where Mael is so far ahead we can't do anything about it.

Just played a round where RNG pretty much forced Adders and us together right off the bat (Adders and Mael both had 2 nodes each and Flames had nothing. Adders were closer Mael was on high ground). We fought over the Node. Adders kept it, but when we went to leave they got super aggressive and started chasing us. We had zero nodes from the very start of the match, and yet they wouldn't let us leave instead of attacking mael. Second set of Nodes and still not a single one on the Flames end of the map. Mael get two. Adders get one. Yet, adders were still chasing us. After two node sets of this, Mael had an over 500pt lead. Adders lost just as much fighting us as we gained, so we were about even, but there was no way we were gonna catch up to Mael. If Adders had, even once, switched to attacking mael than we might have been able to turn that around, but they didn't.

At the end of the day, you're blaming the adders for your loss. Your loss was your team's fault.
1. You couldn't win ONE node from a team that was holding TWO in the beginning.
2. At the next Spawn, you still didn't get a node, still due to range. So when this happened, Adders in pursuit notwithstanding, what was your teams plan? Go take a node from Mael?
3. If you were being followed, you should have been able to get the majority of your team away, even if being pursued. Could have ran them straight into the Mael and forced a 3-way battle. Turning around only allows your team to be easier picked off. So it sounds like your teams communication/strategy and/or experience was lacking. You also could have regrouped at spawn and pushed a node that way. Still, while there might have been some casualties, it is impossible to slaughter 24 people running away, unless they turn around and start fighting in the open/aren't actually the whole alliance etc. Furthermore, I seriously doubt the entire Adder team chased you.
4. What it likely looked like to the adders (keep in mind, we can't cross-communicate in here) is this:
- First round, you could have focused Mael or Adders, your team picked Adders. I get your reasons, but still end of the day, you picked on Adders and left mael uncontested.
-Second round, mael spawns might have been out of reach/far away for Adders to easily contest and since you all were slow to leave initial spawns, you were too close to the new spawn they held and a threat, meaning they felt they had to chase you off. So you got chased.
-It appeared to Adders it was the typical Flames> gunning for Adders causing mael to be up crap. (I think most of this on both sides is just poppy-cock).

But when you couldn't do the initial push, and then didn't get the hell out of there, THAT's what set in motion the rest of the battle+spawns that sound like they naturally worked in Mael favor. Not some wierd 'MUST KILL THE FLAMES! vandetta...actually, if you saw adder chat, we were likely getting pissy that we felt that we couldn't focus the winning Mael once again due to the Flames.

PS: Adders loose plenty of matches too. Flames win plenty of matches, and I've seen the flames tunnel vision on the Mael as much as they tunnel vision on the Adders. Typically whoever attacks you first in any match you will hut the rest of time. Adders typically are actively telling people to stop chasing the losing team/focus on defense and/or the winning team. So, sounds like you were squishy, took too long to get out of their nodes, and were very unsuccessful at your initial push...and far less like the Adders systematically decided to punish you.