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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    Don't think you've been on the Primal servers PvP frontlines very much. 1/10 win ratio for every Flame player out there. Not including 24 man premades.
    Seriously... you might want to check people's character info first or even look up the PvP rankings before you look dumb. And I don't have an awesome win rate, but I play plenty.

    Still, maybe the Flames loose because as a team they make poor decisions. Blaming others won't make you better. It's a 3-way fight. Tunnel-visioning any one team is going to net you losses...simple as that. Not working together will net you losses, and not knowing how to counteract a push will net a loss. But there is no grand conspiracy against the Flames on Primal Data Centers. Adders share no love for the Maelstrom. Nor do they love the Flames. They just want to win. But some matches will either due to node spawns, or due to team stupidity seemingly pit 2 teams against each other for the majority of the match.

    PS: While I only did 1 match today, Flames beat Adders by 20 points in it. Mael barely had 400 points by end. Mael got 3 nodes in a row (in caves) in beginning and got sandwiched by Flames/Adders. Flames pushed the Mael hard that first spawn and got 2 nodes from Mael, Adders stole one as well, guess who came around behind us (we were north spawn and were holding the node right near that spawn/top of caves)....oh that'd be the Flames. Did we decide to attack you the rest of the fight? No, other then when it was the logical choice. Did we curse you in chat? No. Did we think it was some grand conspiracy? NO.

    All it was was Mael had a weak team. They got sandwiched, nodes spawned in South for much of the match (near Flames), and Flames worked together/stayed together when attacked to keep their nodes in tact. IE, they played will and had a bit of luck. That is how you win.

    My friend happened to be in the Mael that same match, and came out bitching about getting sandwiched.

    WE ALL GET SANDWICHED sometimes.
    We all get needlessly camped sometimes.
    We all get tunnel vision teams sometimes.

    But your team losing is not another teams 'fault' or some grand master plan. It's simply, you didn't play as well/react as well to the changes as the other 2 teams did. Period.


    PPS: If you still don't believe there is no grand conspiracy against the flames, good news. You can switch teams for 2 weeks and 'spy' on the alliance chat. You'll be sorely disappointed to learn that no one is systematically trying to keep you down...you all do that quite nicely to yourselves.
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    Kurogaea's Avatar
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    Raifu Kurogaea
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
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    Oh my bad, never knew Exodus was apart of the primal server. So apparently your Rank 40 something on the Adders side, fascinating. I'm rank 50 on Flames and just transferred to Maelstrom. Why? Because Flames literally suck (this time around).

    When we win, its because either Adders and Mael decided, "Hey, lets beat the crap out of each other and completely ignore other nodes and Flames!", which is exactly what happened when I reached rank 50 (5% chance of that ever happening). The other matches, well they went something like this:

    A. When you get 2 nodes on your side and the 2 GCs literally sandwich you till there's nothing left and literally part ways. I'm dead serious.

    B. When we're not winning, somehow we're still being targetted by Adders and Maelstrom even if we're below 100, literally using us as point fodder.
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    C. 1 GC against us could be attacking (we may win the brawl or not) while the other literally relaxes watching as we get out teeth kicked in. The last time that actually happened is to my favor (for once) when I won my 3rd time this week after 30+ matches and I reached Rank 50. (last words was: "I'm outties")

    Btw, I'm not saying Adders and Mael are always against us, but this is the life of a Primal Flames PvPer. We're targets for points. Like NPCs literally wandering around until someone on our alliance comes in with friends and gives orders, that is if they would even bother listening after so many unsuccessful matches. Sometimes even if we play smart by just guarding and attacking properly, somehow either Adders or Maelstrom would go at it and feed the hell out of the other team easily giving them 200 points while we just hold the nodes we have. Then someone speaks up and says "Destroy the winning side!"
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