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    Player Nomad-phx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You can get at least 1 piece of esoteric gear per week. Accessories and belt count. and depending on how you've spent your tomes, sometimes you can get 2. At least its not still 300 tomes a week, that was slow.
    Wow, somebody else that remembers the REAL struggle. It was even worse with the relics requiring mythology tomes too making you choose gear or the "+1" relic that EVERY SINGLE GROUP expected/required you to have for the "+1 only wp runs" groups. In short its not that bad, especially for an mmo which are designed for you to get addicted to and spend all your time on anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad-phx View Post
    Wow, somebody else that remembers the REAL struggle. It was even worse with the relics requiring mythology tomes too making you choose gear or the "+1" relic that EVERY SINGLE GROUP expected/required you to have for the "+1 only wp runs" groups. In short its not that bad, especially for an mmo which are designed for you to get addicted to and spend all your time on anyway.
    I think the problem is that it's not letting you spend your time, once your capped it's done. goodbye. No more item progression for you, come back next week! Of course if the other option is for them to make the game into a job where I'm spending 30-40 hours a week trying to cap, I'll pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I think the problem is that it's not letting you spend your time, once your capped it's done. goodbye. No more item progression for you, come back next week! Of course if the other option is for them to make the game into a job where I'm spending 30-40 hours a week trying to cap, I'll pass.
    They could always make esoteric gear drop from the dungeons, but with a 5% chance and it would be a random piece, not job specific. Like the old days where item loot lockouts weren't a thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They could always make esoteric gear drop from the dungeons, but with a 5% chance and it would be a random piece, not job specific. Like the old days where item loot lockouts weren't a thing!
    You mean like the Void Ark gear (I know it's not as low as 5%, but it's still absurd with all the items that can drop).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    You mean like the Void Ark gear (I know it's not as low as 5%, but it's still absurd with all the items that can drop).
    No, I mean like, its not a guaranteed drop, you have a 5% chance to get a piece of gear, and then that piece of gear is also random. This is how they did "item lockouts" in the past. Instead of limiting you on currency used to buy the items, you had a very limited chance of getting the item. But hey, it didn't make you hit a brick wall when you capped your tomes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    No, I mean like, its not a guaranteed drop, you have a 5% chance to get a piece of gear, and then that piece of gear is also random. This is how they did "item lockouts" in the past. Instead of limiting you on currency used to buy the items, you had a very limited chance of getting the item. But hey, it didn't make you hit a brick wall when you capped your tomes!
    I like it, it would be like christmas when it did. But then the forums would overflow with "Why the hell would it drop gear I can't use! So dumb!" And "Make it tokens!" And "Make it always drop! Rng so cheap!". People would not see it as a bonus, they would see it as enforced grind. Thats why "entitlement" gets throw around so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I was honestly being sarcastic with that suggestion, I didn't used to mind it, and I don't for things like the relic, I didn't hate atmas, or the dungeon drops. But for gearing a character, I much prefer the current tome system to loot RNG like the old days.
    Tbh, I thought you meant along side tomes, but thats what I get for diving into threads all willy nilly when I have this bad of a cold.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 10-02-2015 at 04:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    I like it, it would be like christmas when it did. But then the forums would overflow with "Why the hell would it drop gear I can't use! So dumb!" And "Make it tokens!" And "Make it always drop! Rng so cheap!". People would not see it as a bonus, they would see it as enforced grind. Thats why "entitlement" gets throw around so much.
    I was honestly being sarcastic with that suggestion, I didn't used to mind it, and I don't for things like the relic, I didn't hate atmas, or the dungeon drops. But for gearing a character, I much prefer the current tome system to loot RNG like the old days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They could always make esoteric gear drop from the dungeons, but with a 5% chance and it would be a random piece, not job specific. Like the old days where item loot lockouts weren't a thing!
    love your idea
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They could always make esoteric gear drop from the dungeons, but with a 5% chance and it would be a random piece, not job specific. Like the old days where item loot lockouts weren't a thing!
    Will be in 3.4 I guess (3.0 = highest tome gear, 3.2 = lowest tome gear, 3.4 = dungeon gear)

    Or it go into the Hunt shop
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-02-2015 at 08:19 AM.

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