Esoterics and the Yearning of Evermore.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Alternatives to it will be low drop rates (to the gear or to the tokens)

Good point. I'm not a fan of rng. I'll take slow but steady progression any day.

[raela]

While I don't like how small the cap is and the amount of tomes we get, I do like that we can cap in 6 days, giving us at least one day of rest. =w=

It's too much time now, but a combination of things (loss of cap with new tomes, law awards replaced with eso allowing for quicker gains, perhaps gear cost reduced) will make it more doable to grind for all in the future. The glory days of glamour shall come.

[SendohJin]

With 12 classes it would take an age to cap out every class though.

most people have no interest in playing every class. if there's no cap, they'll do 1 from each role (or for some people who refuse to play every role might do 1 melee dps, 1 range/caster dps) and after that just quit until the next iLv increase.

[AeraLure]

what do you mean by it doesn't work on you? are you saying you have already unsubscribed from the game?

Just means I do not find it a factor to motivate me to stay subscribed. This method, depending on whether you go with a full set of Eso or mix in some crafted or Gordian takes 6-14 weeks per set. I'm really not going to do that for more than my main, so the time-based cap is not something that does or would keep me playing for months. I'm finding other things to keep me motivated to play - at least for now.

[Whiteroom]

Just means I do not find a factor to motivate me to stay subscribed. There's enough in the game to do with so many jobs to possibly level that I - personally - don't need this kind of method as an attempt to keep me subscribed.

^ This, if anything, I would be more motivated if they raised the cap sooner, but then, I play all roles.

[Nomad-phx]

You can get at least 1 piece of esoteric gear per week. Accessories and belt count. and depending on how you've spent your tomes, sometimes you can get 2. At least its not still 300 tomes a week, that was slow.

Wow, somebody else that remembers the REAL struggle. It was even worse with the relics requiring mythology tomes too making you choose gear or the "+1" relic that EVERY SINGLE GROUP expected/required you to have for the "+1 only wp runs" groups. In short its not that bad, especially for an mmo which are designed for you to get addicted to and spend all your time on anyway.

[Colorful]

Wow, somebody else that remembers the REAL struggle. It was even worse with the relics requiring mythology tomes too making you choose gear or the "+1" relic that EVERY SINGLE GROUP expected/required you to have for the "+1 only wp runs" groups. In short its not that bad, especially for an mmo which are designed for you to get addicted to and spend all your time on anyway.

I think the problem is that it's not letting you spend your time, once your capped it's done. goodbye. No more item progression for you, come back next week! Of course if the other option is for them to make the game into a job where I'm spending 30-40 hours a week trying to cap, I'll pass.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I think the problem is that it's not letting you spend your time, once your capped it's done. goodbye. No more item progression for you, come back next week! Of course if the other option is for them to make the game into a job where I'm spending 30-40 hours a week trying to cap, I'll pass.

They could always make esoteric gear drop from the dungeons, but with a 5% chance and it would be a random piece, not job specific. Like the old days where item loot lockouts weren't a thing!

[Desudro]

Science and evidence work the opposite way my friend. The demonstrable and historical remain true and probable to a greater degree until evidence to the contrary can be shown. We don't need to disprove what is, rather the person questioning needs to validate a hypothesis. Statistically speaking the hypothesis that there will be no cap lift in 3.1 and that 3.2 will introduce new tomes has a greater chance probability wise than not because we can ascertain that historically this has been the way it has worked. Does this mean that it can't change? No, certainly not. But to imply that historical cycles need evidence of probability vs a completely unsubstantiated hypothesis that goes against them is fairly ridiculous. It's like saying Bigfoot exists because you can't prove he doesn't.

Ah. Inductive reasoning. You make my MA in Philosophy very happy.

[Colorful]

They could always make esoteric gear drop from the dungeons, but with a 5% chance and it would be a random piece, not job specific. Like the old days where item loot lockouts weren't a thing!

You mean like the Void Ark gear (I know it's not as low as 5%, but it's still absurd with all the items that can drop).