Monk's Heavensward abilities

[Atmora]

But all monks HW abilities were literally flat upgrades that helped the class with its flaws while maintaining its identity what is there to complain about?

[Adire]

But all monks HW abilities were literally flat upgrades that helped the class with its flaws while maintaining its identity what is there to complain about?

My main complaint is that monk has arguably the lowest potential max dps of the melees next to ninja and the least group utility. The job with the least group utility should do the most personal damage to make up for it.

Dragoon and Ninja's new kits allowed them to truly grow in dps, enough to pass monk. Things should be brought back to order, or at least make a monk be more useful to a group utility wise. Right now, having a monk instead of a dragoon or ninja is a drawback to a group in every way.

[Subucnimorning]

Dragoon and Ninja's new kits allowed them to truly grow in dps, enough to pass monk. Things should be brought back to order, or at least make a monk be more useful to a group utility wise. Right now, having a monk instead of a dragoon or ninja is a drawback to a group in every way.

A majority of groups wouldn't agree with you that having a monk is a drawback compared to ninja. MNK is more dps than NIN's effective dps with TA taken into account.

[whiskeybravo]

A majority of groups wouldn't agree with you that having a monk is a drawback compared to ninja. MNK is more dps than NIN's effective dps with TA taken into account.

I would definitely disagree lol. When our static was forming a few months back our raid leader really wanted a nin, but it was hard to find one so they opened the slot up to MNK. Haven't looked back or regretted that decision at all. In fact, our monk can now go NIN in a1s/a2s (and did so last week) but lesser damage did not really make up for TA. He did go monk in a2 since I've been our driver and monk aoe is better anyways, but point being, we'd all rather him be on monk instead, even tho he's a perfectly capable nin