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  1. #121
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    TechnoTechie's Avatar
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    Techno Techie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Also, BTW, to utilize your higher CP / Crafts rotations you list, doesn't that mean that you realistically are melding some pieces *not* at Max Cap (since Tier V not available)
    I wouldn't say "not available" just "difficult to obtain". I got lucky on one of my transmutations and got a craftsmanship V

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    When the time comes, I'll either go to Mutamix and get the old materia cleared out, or I'll make a new item, convert the old item to (hopefully) Grade V materia, and put the resulting materia in the new one. Which I do will depend on factors including the relative availability/value of the mats to craft the particular new piece and the Grade 5 materia, and I cannot predict that without knowing what changes/additions SE will make to crafting and gathering by that time.
    As far as converting i170 crafting gear, I would wait until the patch notes explicitly say that you can gain them from converting. They explicitly stated that you couldn't at the release of 3.0, and did not mention otherwise in subsequent patches.
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  2. #122
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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Thanks so much Silverbane, Kat! Also, BTW, to utilize your higher CP / Crafts rotations you list, doesn't that mean that you realistically are melding some pieces *not* at Max Cap (since Tier V not available), and you're counting on... erasing / removing and re-melding later?
    I'm aggressive with melds but I did the most logical thing which was to short my craftsmanship on my melds, and leave my main/offhand open for extra craftsman melds if needed. I think I'm one or two stats off max melds on my two star accessories (which is all you need to use my higher CP rotations). Assuming that you max CP melded your i150 gear (which again is what I did).

    I should link my recommended i150 left side with i170 right side to reach the max CP.

    Also since I'm just short a hint of craftsmanship and like two quality from max, I am not anticipating revising my melds.
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  3. #123
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    Kiara's Avatar
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Masamune
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    Thanks all! I see.

    Yah, I guess part of me (the frugal side LOL), thinks, "Well, if Tier V (for Max) isn't readily available, it feels like a waste of money to meld less than Max right now." Heh.

    But there are some good ideas here (such as hopefully by then Tier V is easier to get, and you convert the pieces that weren't maxed out to maybe get a Tier V; or just get close enough etc.). Thanks.
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  4. #124
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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    Updated with a video guide for anyone interested. It covers the basics of the MaMa Careful Synth rotation, when to use ToT, and shows approach making a two star chest piece. Let me know if you have any questions or if you would like to see other crafting videos which don't have good coverage right now.

    Video Link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQChyC1EUag
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 09-30-2015 at 12:48 PM.

  5. #125
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    Nice vid! Love the little hand wave at the end! XD
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  6. #126
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    Maybe this has been asked but is there a reason you're wasting a maker's mark step on inner quiet instead of doing inner quiet after mark has worn?
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  7. #127
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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Maybe this has been asked but is there a reason you're wasting a maker's mark step on inner quiet instead of doing inner quiet after mark has worn?
    Good question. If you do not cast inner quiet after CZ you will hit max CP and you can't retrieve a ToT during your flawless synth cycle. This is one of those things which looks bad on paper but is actually smart to do.
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  8. #128
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    Buckles Trespen
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    Have 777 craft, 703 control and 386CP unbuffed. Used HQ seafood stew and managed to HQ one of my ingots today. Then RNG came along and turned my 2nd ingot SQ at 76% quality having botched 4 of the HTs.

    I hate that after weeks of gearing red scrips, excessive melds, best foods and all that time gathering my own materials I still rely so much on rng for these crafts.

    I decided today to retire from crafting and just gather scrips for whatever thing comes after this god awful, painful, near-rewardless grind they put in place.
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  9. #129
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    Damon Savinski
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    Famfrit
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    Weaver Lv 60
    I'm a lil confused to howan abundance of these skills are RNG bases yet reclaim isn't on your list. Is it really that common to barely miss an action with your rotation? Cause I've had plenty of shII+hasty fails. Also what's your general pre-accumulated quality?(how many HQ materials does this require)
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad-phx View Post
    I'm a lil confused to howan abundance of these skills are RNG bases yet reclaim isn't on your list. Is it really that common to barely miss an action with your rotation? Cause I've had plenty of shII+hasty fails. Also what's your general pre-accumulated quality?(how many HQ materials does this require)
    Reclaim isn't on my required list but in the note below it I point out you have your choice between Innovate and Reclaim and currently I have Reclaim loaded. Though I probably use the skill once a month or less. I start with around 2000 quality, and at 2000 you can miss three hasty touches if you succeed one precise touch. You can miss four hasty touches if you succeed two precise touches. As noted Ingenuity II + Byregot's allows you to miss one more hasty than a normal rotation so you have a fair bit of wiggle room to succeed your synth with this rotation.
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