How do you deal with sluggish tanks?

[NekoGenesis]

I leveled up my own damn tank, now I main it.

[raela]

As a healer, what I hate most is a tank in minimum ilvl with no sense of using CDs that immediately pulls all they can.. Especially if dps aren't aoe oriented and/or are lowly geared as well. Pull for your comfort/party. >:|

[Archaell]

As a healer, what I hate most is a tank in minimum ilvl with no sense of using CDs that immediately pulls all they can.. Especially if dps aren't aoe oriented and/or are lowly geared as well. Pull for your comfort/party. >:|

And on top of that in full strength gear, while turning off their tank stance to make the run as fast as possible through their awesome DPS and inevitable death. There is too much big pulling in the game imo, and as result less experienced dps-went-tank players think it's the only way, without learning their CDs and enmity management properly on smaller pulls first.

[raela]

And on top of that in full strength gear, while turning off their tank stance to make the run as fast as possible through their awesome DPS and inevitable death. There is too much big pulling in the game imo, and as result less experienced dps-went-tank players think it's the only way, without learning their CDs and enmity management properly on smaller pulls first.

A good tank in full str / dps stance is actually my favorite.. Speedy fun runs with little danger. I like "meat grinder" style runs and will dps alongside everyone. A good tank lets me mainly heal via fairy. Still though, if there is any sort of barrier to that run, I'd much rather have a series of smaller pulls - then I'll just stick to cleric stance (whereas in larger ones, I'll swap out to assist my fairy once shadow flare and maybe dots are out).

[karateorangutang]

And on top of that in full strength gear, while turning off their tank stance to make the run as fast as possible through their awesome DPS and inevitable death. There is too much big pulling in the game imo, and as result less experienced dps-went-tank players think it's the only way, without learning their CDs and enmity management properly on smaller pulls first.

While I agree that they shouldn't be doing this there is a big disconnect in the game with defensive cooldowns. There is almost zero incentive to use a defensive cooldown on any small pull. Alot of tanks aren't learning to use them because they simply aren't necessary. I find when I heal that if a tank is doing small pulls that I actively have to look to even see if they are using cooldowns at all. The difference in using them on small pulls is so miniscule that it's hardly noticeable.

Now I'm in no way endorsing minimum ilvl tanks go and pull a huge chunk of mobs, but they should be pulling more than one group at a time. This would make the use of defensive cooldowns more apparent and obvious for both the healer and the tank. By putting the tank in a situation where they need those cooldown's to stay alive they will learn faster how to rotate them and use them effectively to keep the party going smoothly. This is on the whole party though to notice these trends and tailor the run to it.

It's why we have a keyboard and a chat box.

That being said... scrubs will be scrubs. If they don't wanna learn then that is a whole different matter.

[Akei]

Funny thing is with some tanks I see them blow 2 or 3 Cooldowns when they hit 20% life, always gives me a chuckle and I pity the healers in those runs. 20% is TOO LATE to start blowing CDs in this game. I guess it comes from playing other games were tanks have some almighty CDs on long reuse timers that are more *save my ass* type skills rather than *mitigate the dmg* type CDs we have here. (Dont get me wrong, HG, Holm etc are save my ass CDs .... Rampart / foresight / etc are not)

I've seen many a run where tanks did'ent use CD's at all, its alot better now, with HW release DRK's were the top offenders for this. I still catch it even now though, mostly b/c I main tanks I guess and I'm aware of the ability effects, so I can see right away when a tank is using CDs and when they are not. Thankfully I only run as Tank or DPS (Wifes character) so I dont have to heal those tanks.

Healers /pat /comfort

I'm so sorry you have to deal with that !!!

[Aiselia]

I pity the healers in those runs

If a tank's hitting 20% health frequently, the healer isn't doing their job.

I pity the poor tanks who have to deal with terrible healers who think their job is to DPS until the tank is within an inch of dying before using Benediction.

[Malevicton]

I pity the poor tanks who have to deal with terrible healers who think their job is to DPS until the tank is within an inch of dying before using Benediction.

your bait is getting better

[Exodus_Kenpachi]

I pity myself when I have to DF my way through grinding ESO and I out DPS my DPS while using my WAR.

A slow tank might be mildly annoying but a crew of horrible DPS who are parsing in the 300 DPS range and dragging out my grind is way worse.

But then again... Half second ques are nice

[Cabalabob]

I know exactly where you're coming from OP, when I'm on BLM and I have 10 seconds left on enochain so I want the tank to hurry up and pull the next set so I can refresh it and they stop to stoneskin themselves... It makes me want to cast my blizzard 4 on THEM!

I'm a main PLD but I have also levelled DRG and BLM so I know exactly how annoying it is to have needless downtime, unless there's an actual reason to stop I'll keep going to make sure everyone can keep their buffs up. Unfortunately not every tank plays dps as well and don't understand that every second they sit there doing nothing is breaking your rotation.