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  1. #21
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    Valaska's Avatar
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    Valaska Svendsen
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeraLure View Post
    They do generally care more about honor. It's just that there, ime, finding an exploit, a backdoor or any sort of way to manipulate a game as released (without using actual cheating software) is not considered cheating at all. It's simply a mark of being in the know and finding ways to beat the system. Think of it as just a game within a game to find the cracks in the game logic and get things done faster/better.
    Japanese culture has westernized heavily and pretty much everything we're told about their past etc is different now. Like the whole no stabbing with chopsticks, or even the decline of use with chopsticks in Japan (swapping to fork etc). Our preconceptions are about as accurate as "Westernboo's" conception of the united states still being the wild west haha.

    Limiting plays to certain players might work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericMagus View Post
    The tournament has always been broken since day one, however, SE has never done any of this to address the problems that has plagued the system and allowed itself to exploitation. This is the fault of SE, not the people doing it. Hate the game, not the people playing it
    No, they've repeatedly made it worse.

    They raised the rewards especially on the high end making it more appealing to wintrade.

    Then they go and nerf the rewards to fight npcs punishing those that want no part of that.

    As far as whether it's against ToS or not it'd fall under the win-trading that happened in pvp in wolves' den. It wasn't against ToS, just discouraged, and Yoshi was quoted as saying there would be no punishments for the win-trading there; that instead they would make it less desirable to do pvp that way. And that worked; nobody does that anymore. So it's just odd they've gone the opposite way with dealing with the TT wintrading.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    No, they've repeatedly made it worse.

    They raised the rewards especially on the high end making it more appealing to wintrade.

    Then they go and nerf the rewards to fight npcs punishing those that want no part of that.
    Don't forget about the discouraging rules, like Random or Order, that make it impossible to get into the higher rankings without wintrading. Have they always been like that?
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scalizor View Post
    Don't forget about the discouraging rules, like Random or Order, that make it impossible to get into the higher rankings without wintrading. Have they always been like that?
    Those don't make it impossible to make it to higher rankings without win trading. Random and Order simply make it... Albeit frustratingly, challenging and forces you to think with what you're given. You can still attempt to bait etc but it does add elements of luck to it. We really just need limited plays with certain players and maybe redefine how you actually play the tournament... Make it sort of like speed dating, everyone has to show up to sessions throughout 1-2 days you get a max number of plays and it pairs you with random people who are in the session.
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  5. #25
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Not to mention the rewards suck. Why bother struggling to reach the top 20 and get 5K to 10K MGP tops every 2 weeks when I can make almost the same amount weekly/daily from the mini-cactpot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Not to mention the rewards suck. Why bother struggling to reach the top 20 and get 5K to 10K MGP tops every 2 weeks when I can make almost the same amount weekly/daily from the mini-cactpot?
    Because of the platinum card packs and the chances for the tournament-only cards they carry.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Cards don't interest me that much anymore. I'm saving up for the mounts.
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    IMO they should make Tournament like instances - You are matching for a game, when enemy is up both are accepting and play the game. It would destroy the wintrade for sure. What is happening now is really making me sad. On my server - top 10 are 43-45/45 wins and next top from 10 to 20 are guys with 0 or 3 wins.
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  9. #29
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    Sana Cetonis
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    I imagine the answer to this is "character data, server load" etc. but in terms of logical simplicity they could just make it so that you can only challenge a given opponent for the tournament once each (and open up all field NPCs to tournament play). May need to tone the matches down to a more reasonable 20 or 30, but it'd make it much harder to rig things when you'd basically need a whole mid-sized FC willing to throw a match to you.
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    Valaska Svendsen
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    They should make the tournaments like speed dating. You sign up, you sit down, play 3 matches with each person, then the people rotate to the next table! Have multiple play periods in a day or two and bam, no more trading all your wins to one or two accounts.
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