fix the card tournement

[Dererk]

The tournament has always been broken since day one, however, SE has never done any of this to address the problems that has plagued the system and allowed itself to exploitation. This is the fault of SE, not the people doing it. Hate the game, not the people playing it

While the whole selling of raids for the loot can be debated weather its right or wrong lets not go any further than that for this example.


A tournament where you are supposed to win with skill. Its not debatable its wrong it didn't matter if SE made a mistake in this its wrong and people know it's wrong yet they buy and trade wins any way. So yes you can hate the player.

[GenericMagus]

While the whole selling of raids for the loot can be debated weather its right or wrong lets not go any further than that for this example.


A tournament where you are supposed to win with skill. Its not debatable its wrong it didn't matter if SE made a mistake in this its wrong and people know it's wrong yet they buy and trade wins any way. So yes you can hate the player.

The tournament already fails at winning with skill if you're allowed to choose who you play against without consequence. As such, I can play against the same person and win over and over again, making that point moot. If the tournament was intended that way, SE would of made the changes to the tournament that decreases the amount you earn from just farming with one person, getting rid of early bird bonuses, etc. In order to win at this system, you have to cheat to beat the cheaters who exploit the system, and while I get what you mean, it's ultimately SE responsibility that tournaments have gotten this way, not the players using their skills to exploit a system by pinpointing its weaknesses.

[Alistaire]

The tournament has always been broken since day one, however, SE has never done any of this to address the problems that has plagued the system and allowed itself to exploitation. This is the fault of SE, not the people doing it. Hate the game, not the people playing it

No, they've repeatedly made it worse.

They raised the rewards especially on the high end making it more appealing to wintrade.

Then they go and nerf the rewards to fight npcs punishing those that want no part of that.

As far as whether it's against ToS or not it'd fall under the win-trading that happened in pvp in wolves' den. It wasn't against ToS, just discouraged, and Yoshi was quoted as saying there would be no punishments for the win-trading there; that instead they would make it less desirable to do pvp that way. And that worked; nobody does that anymore. So it's just odd they've gone the opposite way with dealing with the TT wintrading.

[Scalizor]

No, they've repeatedly made it worse.

They raised the rewards especially on the high end making it more appealing to wintrade.

Then they go and nerf the rewards to fight npcs punishing those that want no part of that.

Don't forget about the discouraging rules, like Random or Order, that make it impossible to get into the higher rankings without wintrading. Have they always been like that?

[Valaska]

Don't forget about the discouraging rules, like Random or Order, that make it impossible to get into the higher rankings without wintrading. Have they always been like that?

Those don't make it impossible to make it to higher rankings without win trading. Random and Order simply make it... Albeit frustratingly, challenging and forces you to think with what you're given. You can still attempt to bait etc but it does add elements of luck to it. We really just need limited plays with certain players and maybe redefine how you actually play the tournament... Make it sort of like speed dating, everyone has to show up to sessions throughout 1-2 days you get a max number of plays and it pairs you with random people who are in the session.

[Beckett]

SE has never done any of this to address the problems that has plagued the system

Hey, that's not true! It used to be difficult to win the tournament without cheating, but SE addressed the issue and made it impossible to win without cheating!

[Windklinge]

yeah yeah. and if tournaments were skillbased then why is one of em based on the RANDOM rule`? this rule basicly removes all skill and sometimes decides the winner from the get go. a skill based game would be a game thats not based on RNG in any form.

[Uppun]

Well, I mean random doesn't necessarily mean "not skill based." One could argue that being forced to use cards and decks that you normally don't requires more skill because you have to come up with strategies on the fly and find a way to use potentially weaker cards to beat stronger ones. Random/chaos is a bit different, but random on it's own isn't so bad.

The problem with match-fixing is that it ruins the fun of tournaments. If you're not match fixing, then there is virtually no chance that you can win, and probably wont even scratch the top 20. Where is the fun in playing that way if you know you have no chance of winning if you don't abuse the system like that? And for the people match fixing, it's not fun either. It's just a grind because they want to get that MGP with as little work as humanly possible.

[Windklinge]

. It's just a grind because they want to get that MGP with as little work as humanly possible.

CORE ISSUE SPOT ON here basicly. ask this : why is mgp even a grind to begin with? thats the core problem here, who tought a GRIND is a good thing for somthing like gold saucer which is just supposed to be a FUN sidegame without any rewards gear wise? who came up with that idea?

if said grind wouldnt exist people wouldnt care as much about this. tough its still stupid somehow even if it wasnt lol.

[Uppun]

CORE ISSUE SPOT ON here basicly. ask this : why is mgp even a grind to begin with? thats the core problem here, who tought a GRIND is a good thing for somthing like gold saucer which is just supposed to be a FUN sidegame without any rewards gear wise? who came up with that idea?

if said grind wouldnt exist people wouldnt care as much about this. tough its still stupid somehow even if it wasnt lol.

It's a grind because they want the stuff like the cosmetic items to actually have some rarity. If they were super common nobody would care, so yeah in a way it's the grind that gives the stuff it's value.