DEV REQUEST: Remove cast bars to MCH & BRD

[AsahinaMyLove]

yes please! -.-
Its totally stupid!
I DONT even use it.
I dont play a bard to play as a black mage all of sudden!

Why cant we have an atk switch like Dark Knight has too?!

15% Atk boost and MP Drains down while using >_> NO fu**** Casttime on skills or disable auto atk.

[Dererk]

You know I just find it very very hilarious.

People wer asking for a magic gunner before machinist was announced.

Yet now we technically do have one.

People are complaining. Am I the only one who finds this funny?

[rappa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebqb...ature=youtu.be

It's simply, you are smashing straight shot before the proc putting the ability in queue.

[RiceisNice]

It's simply, you are smashing straight shot before the proc putting the ability in queue.

And the proc should occur before the weaponskill cooldown is finished, is what I'm getting at, on top of the fact that putting an oGCD doesn't work to force a serverside update for the proc like you suggested eariler

[Warlyx]

If they ever removed the casting times from BRD and MCH, they'd also remove the extra damage they get with those abilities.

yup , but the WM dmg boost was a "lie"

let me explain

in 2.0 brd was behind melees by 20%~ (more or less, varied from encounter to encounter but just random number)

we all agree that its ok that brd did less , because it was ranged , had songs and could move and dps at the same time

at the time i advocated for a ranger or sniper or w/e stance that boosted dmg in exchange for movement or unable to sing songs (u gotta give something for more power!)

we got WM , and SE said , that we would give up movility in exchange for dmg , and yeah he didnt lie.... but what he didnt said was that he would buff the other dps way more...

and here we are... BRD is still doing 20%~ less dmg than melees , same as 2.0 and thats ok , BUT WE HAVE CASTING TIMES NOW..... is like a devil pact , we didnt read the little text....

so please TELL ME , what BRD gained in HW? it doesnt feel fair , other dps got utilty and a more fun gameplay and lots of QOL changes....

we gained casting bars.

[AzraelX]

in 2.0 brd was behind melees by 20%~ (more or less, varied from encounter to encounter but just random number)


and here we are... BRD is still doing 20%~ less dmg than melees , same as 2.0 and thats ok , BUT WE HAVE CASTING TIMES NOW..... is like a devil pact , we didnt read the little text....

so please TELL ME , what BRD gained in HW? it doesnt feel fair , other dps got utilty and a more fun gameplay and lots of QOL changes....

we gained casting bars.

Thats a good point. that the support range Dps did not get much support skills post 50.

[Magis]

/scratches head.

Ok, I get the BRD thing, but what right do you have with MCH? There was no "previous" design. If SE wanted MCH to have cast bars, then that it their choice not yours.

[RiceisNice]

/scratches head.

Ok, I get the BRD thing, but what right do you have with MCH? There was no "previous" design. If SE wanted MCH to have cast bars, then that it their choice not yours.

I personally feel there's nothing wrong with MCH, other than the fact I feel it's been incredibly over advertised, undersold as far as what they presented with ammo and "various attachments". They ended up scrapping the idea and settled with giving both BRD and MCH their own version of WM. It ends up making them play similar to each other even after they share the same party composition slot.

There's just not enough differentiation between the two jobs.

[AzraelX]

/scratches head.

Ok, I get the BRD thing, but what right do you have with MCH? There was no "previous" design. If SE wanted MCH to have cast bars, then that it their choice not yours.

TBh its more about BARD but if MCh could get its cast bard removed great if not...thats cool
i just want the devs to know that players feel like they lost a play style that they loved

[Yoruichi4478]

And get our old Bard style back /cheer!