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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I don't know, I've found during the last boss of Vault I can kill the orbs faster without Minuet than I can with. As for GCD, yes, it is still 2.5 seconds but with Minuet up there's a 3.5-ish cast time for most actions so GCD is moot at that point. At least, that's what I've noticed, I don't really give it the third-degree so I can't say with utter confidence. Either way, I'm not generating as much enmity with Minuet as I do without because of the extra time between actions. This is one of the trade-offs for doing 30% more damage, a casting time and reduced mobility. This is also the thing alot of the 'everyone' spokespeople seem to hate. Again, there had to be a trade-off in order for it to be balanced.
    3.5? what kind of connection have you got?

    My cast bars with 528 skill speed are 1'46
    With 707 are 1.42

    Please don't blame castsbars when the problem is your connection or ISP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    Please don't blame castsbars when the problem is your connection or ISP.
    What?! I'm... I'm confused. When did I 'blame' anything on anything? I'm reading my posts and I don't see anything saying anything to that effect. I don't really understand where your negativity is stemming from. Anyway, I do notice that the GCD resolves before I'm finished with my action under Minuet whereas without I'm waiting on the GCD in order to use another action. This difference gives a noticeable reduction in enmity build-up, at least I've noticed something to that effect. It's harder for me to pull hate under Minuet than without. But this is all personal experience, everyone has their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    What?! I'm... I'm confused. When did I 'blame' anything on anything? I'm reading my posts and I don't see anything saying anything to that effect. I don't really understand where your negativity is stemming from. Anyway, I do notice that the GCD resolves before I'm finished with my action under Minuet whereas without I'm waiting on the GCD in order to use another action. This difference gives a noticeable reduction in enmity build-up, at least I've noticed something to that effect. It's harder for me to pull hate under Minuet than without. But this is all personal experience, everyone has their own.
    Then that's lag on your end or something. The cast times for weaponskills under WM is 1.5 seconds with a 2.5 second GCD. There's no way for your cast time to finish before the GCD is finished.



    The matter of fact is, WM should not be slowing your attack output, it's not supposed to do that. You should till be able to do one weapon skill every GCD (2.5 second) and your enmnity shouldn't be lower, bcause with or without WM, you're onyl using one weapon skill every 2.5 seconds (and the cooldown begins at the start of the cast time, not the end)

    And just to add onto my previous post
    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    You mentioned heavy shot cast followed by straight shot cast, then you notice you got ss proc. I said that would be fixed but will be hard like server connection and your game work.

    As i said. Cast heavy shot - bloodletter(ss proc appears) - straight shot instant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebqb...ature=youtu.be
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 09-28-2015 at 08:43 AM.
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    It's simply, you are smashing straight shot before the proc putting the ability in queue.
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    Last edited by rappa; 09-28-2015 at 09:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    It's simply, you are smashing straight shot before the proc putting the ability in queue.
    And the proc should occur before the weaponskill cooldown is finished, is what I'm getting at, on top of the fact that putting an oGCD doesn't work to force a serverside update for the proc like you suggested eariler
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