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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    I gave my opinion. your long winded response to my post which you seem to feel is out of place is duly noted.
    I know being a raider is not nesicarily hardcore however that is what the devs claim BCoB/SCoB/FCoB and AS are marketed toward if you look at their posts.
    and btw I do raid just not fond of the 8 man stuff, I quite enjoyed the Crystal Tower series and am looking forward to Void Ark.
    You're not fond of it, don't do it, and yet you have an opinion on it. You sir/ma'am are precious.

    I gave you five sentences, get over yourself. The rest of those responses were to other people. Also, LOL at calling the crystal tower series a raid. That's like going into LFR in wow and calling yourself a raider XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    You're not fond of it, don't do it, and yet you have an opinion on it. You sir/ma'am are precious.

    I gave you five sentences, get over yourself. The rest of those responses were to other people. Also, LOL at calling the crystal tower series a raid. That's like going into LFR in wow and calling yourself a raider XD
    I didn't call myself a raider, but the CT series are classified as raids or have you forgotten how to actually read within the game? and you are precious to think that the BCoB series are raids and CT are not when that is exactly what the devs call both. you need to get over yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Coil wasn't reserverd for anyone so I don't know where you got that from. all it took was a little effort to find or create a static and approach it. The only person stopping themselves from raiding is the one they see in the mirror. No, you don't need to dedicate hours and hours a week (unless you going for world firsts). 2 to 3 hours a week is all to see progression, unless you are that impatient and want it all now now now.
    coil was originally geared toward the hardcore crowd so in essence while it wasn't technically reserved for anyone it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    I didn't call myself a raider, but the CT series are classified as raids or have you forgotten how to actually read within the game?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    I gave my opinion. your long winded response to my post which you seem to feel is out of place is duly noted.
    I know being a raider is not nesicarily hardcore however that is what the devs claim BCoB/SCoB/FCoB and AS are marketed toward if you look at their posts.
    and btw I do raid just not fond of the 8 man stuff, I quite enjoyed the Crystal Tower series and am looking forward to Void Ark.
    If you raid, what are you again? A chicken? No.... A chair perhaps? HMMMMM darn this is so hard to figure our!

    On a serious note, what you said implied that you fancy yourself a raider, which you are be SE's definition but not by community definition of a raider.
    I can take a stone brick and spray paint it gold, It won't make me a million-air. You can show up to Void Ark and call yourself a raider, but it's not a raid when you can do a 1-2-3 rotation alt tabbed watching youtube.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    coil was originally geared toward the hardcore crowd so in essence while it wasn't technically reserved for anyone it was.
    Since you love to emphasize details about crystal tower being a "raid" you should know that anyone who hit level 50 and got darklight gear was eligible to do coil. It was reserved for no one. Gotta love that selective reasoning mind of yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    If you raid, what are you again? A chicken? No.... A chair perhaps? HMMMMM darn this is so hard to figure our!

    On a serious note, what you said implied that you fancy yourself a raider, which you are be SE's definition but not by community definition of a raider.
    I can take a stone brick and spray paint it gold, It won't make me a million-air. You can show up to Void Ark and call yourself a raider, but it's not a raid when you can do a 1-2-3 rotation alt tabbed watching youtube.
    enough of the insults. I posted my opinion. I really don't give a rat's patootie what you define as a raider. the BCoB series is nothing but an overglorified memory game on all levels. by the definition of the devs if it is a raid it is listed as one. don't like it? too bad it isn't yours to define. let me ask you this. did you raid Limbus? Dynamis(before nerf), Sea? or Sky? in FFXI?
    these memory games they keep defining as endgame grate my nerves.

    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    Since you love to emphasize details about crystal tower being a "raid" you should know that anyone who hit level 50 and got darklight gear was eligible to do coil. It was reserved for no one. Gotta love that selective reasoning mind of yours.
    if this is how you treat people in RL I can't see you as keeping any friends for very long. I'm done responding to you, have fun with your droll memory games you define as raids. if you define coil as raid content but not the CT series perhaps you should take a look at this.

    A raid is a type of mission in a video game in which a number of people attempt to defeat a boss monster or consecutive series of bosses. The term raid itself stems from the military definition of a sudden attack and/or seizure of some objective.[1] This type of objective is most common in MMORPGs, and usually but not necessarily occurs within an Instance dungeon.
    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_%28gaming%29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    enough of the insults. I posted my opinion. I really don't give a rat's patootie what you define as a raider. the BCoB series is nothing but an overglorified memory game on all levels. by the definition of the devs if it is a raid it is listed as one. don't like it? too bad it isn't yours to define. let me ask you this. did you raid Limbus? Dynamis(before nerf), Sea? or Sky? in FFXI?
    these memory games they keep defining as endgame grate my nerves.

    if this is how you treat people in RL I can't see you as keeping any friends for very long. I'm done responding to you have fun with your droll memory games you define as raids.
    I am sorry if you see being blunt as insulting. It's how the real world works, sweetie. No one has time to care that your feelings were hurt by words.

    I am not a software developer; consequently, I am not going to have an opinion to offer any company in the business in making software. You don't do 8-man raiding in this game, yet you have an opinion on it. That's horse pucky my dear. People with uneducated opinion are such a huge problem irl, flip on the news and see what it begot us. So, please, forgive me if I am blunt about how your opinion carry's no weight on the matter of 8-man savage, you don't do it so please don't offer feedback about it.

    Yes, this is how I treat people in real life. I am blunt, honest, and speak my mind on topics I am informed on. I have plenty of friends, a great husband, and an amazing family. Please continue to make assertions on nothing you know about, like my personal life, lololololol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    On a serious note, what you said implied that you fancy yourself a raider, which you are be SE's definition but not by community definition of a raider.
    I can take a stone brick and spray paint it gold, It won't make me a million-air. You can show up to Void Ark and call yourself a raider, but it's not a raid when you can do a 1-2-3 rotation alt tabbed watching youtube.
    so by your logic is she a raider or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    Since you love to emphasize details about crystal tower being a "raid" you should know that anyone who hit level 50 and got darklight gear was eligible to do coil. It was reserved for no one. Gotta love that selective reasoning mind of yours.
    because if meeting the prerequisite to enter a raid is all you need then she is a raider.
    unless of course you admit that coil is reserved for "real" raiders on account of being able to enter it does not mean being able to clear it.
    which would make her right o.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    so by your logic is she a raider or not?



    because if meeting the prerequisite to enter a raid is all you need then she is a raider.
    unless of course you admit that coil is reserved for "real" raiders on account of being able to enter it does not mean being able to clear it.
    which would make her right o.O
    Anyone who tries to kill a raid boss, successful or not, I would call a raider.

    A raid boss would be a boss that requires a higher level of dedication and coordination than a duty finder boss. Does that satisfy your pedantic argument?

    Also, just in case you bring up this point, yes, I consider coil in duty finder with echo a raid because the nerfs to t9 and t13 were not that bad. Those two fights remained mostly in-tact and still gated players. It forced them to step up their game if they were clearing the content the 1st time around. The crystal tower series never forced you to up your game. You just had to show up, not go completely afk, and you get loot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    yea that's bull.

    let me use what you said,
    I can take a stone brick and spray paint it gold, It won't make me a million-air.

    and if I really wanna get pedantic, those who do the CT series and the soon to come void ark are called raiders because they are called a raid by the developer.
    Whose words actually mean something on such matters.

    PS: you are being blunt AND insulting, those two are not mutually exclusive
    Yes, you know what I mean, but you continue to be pedantic. SE can call it raiding, but does the community? Does the MMO community look at stuff like LFR in wow and crystal tower in this game an call it a raid. Nope. Everyone knows the mechanics, the bosses, and the dificulty of the CT series/LFR has always been a joke.

    Go make a thread on reddit and talk about how CT is raiding and lets see what the court of public opinion has to say on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    you are mixing up the definition of blunt with snooty know it all. you aren't being blunt you are being an !@#$hole. learn the difference.

    if you define coil as raid content but not the CT series perhaps you should take a look at this.
    Guess you were not done after all =p teehee! One last go before I head out for the day, shall we?

    I am sorry if being blunt makes me seem like an a-hole, but you have no place of authority to speak from and your points on the matter are ill-informed. Yes I am being mean to you because you deserve it for thinking you should have a say in something you don't participate in. Go to another thread where you can talk about stuff you are informed on, leave the discussion of raiding to people who actually care about it enough to try it. Also, GG resorting wikipedia for your argument XD

    I challenge you to do what I said to hagare, go post in the ffxiv subreddit and ask the community if CT was a raid or just a loot pinata.

    Both of you have a wonderful day! <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    Anyone who tries to kill a raid boss, successful or not, I would call a raider.

    A raid boss would be a boss that requires a higher level of dedication and coordination than a duty finder boss. Does that satisfy your pedantic argument?
    yea that's bull.

    let me use what you said,
    I can take a stone brick and spray paint it gold, It won't make me a million-air.

    and if I really wanna get pedantic, those who do the CT series and the soon to come void ark are called raiders because they are called a raid by the developer.
    Whose words actually mean something on such matters.

    PS: you are being blunt AND insulting, those two are not mutually exclusive
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