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  1. #61
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    Aww I thought this thread was about being dead tired of running Alex for another month
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    The whole Savage and Normal thing was a terrible idea in the first place. Mid core players like myself are stuck in a limbo of Normal being too easy and savage being too hard it's hard not to feel left out when casual and minority hardcore get their raids. Final coil was perfect difficulty for me it wasn't easy but not stupidly over the top hard.
    Savage is the same as final coil pertty much
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    Rather than posting a hyperbolic reply to the thread title, why don't you actually read through some of the post and actually help come up with a better solution.
    Yeah, I read through the posts. Honestly, I don't think there's a problem.... I think it's fine, I think NM is there for the right reason, I think Savage is there for the right reason. Are they missing some of the mid-core stuff? Yes, and that's been noted before and maybe they'll do something about it. But I can't help but pour out the sarcasm on a thread that's based off of someone going on saying that everyone should be viewing the game by their standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Savage is the same as final coil pertty much
    Erm what?...
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    I'm more disappointed in bland/lack of story than the fact there is a savage/NM. Next part of alex I sure hope the story gets better because wow its lacking something exciting in my opinion.
    Was also disappointed in how easy Alexander Normal was. But I understand why they did it, let's be honest people would just complain and make 100 new threads to nerf it

    I liked how there was a NM and Savage personally.
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    Last edited by Lemuel81; 09-26-2015 at 08:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    snp
    There are extreme people on both sides, and trying to argue reasonably is going to get you shouted at no matter what you say. Can't remember if it on Reddit or here, but I suggested a 3 tier difficulty raid: Normal, Extreme and Savage. Extreme would be the first to come out, after a month both Normal and Savage would be released so the casuals (including myself) have a place to go, and the best of the best have Savage. This would satisfy all groups at the cost of a little bit more development time. Want to know what I got in response? The same things you see in this thread, "normal was a mistake", "you should have to work for story", and "Alexander normal should have never happened" so I don't even bother anymore. I don't know why people feel so threatened about the majority seeing content they funded.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Savage is the same as final coil pertty much
    Wut.... /10char
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    Wait, what? How does the existence of normal mode in any way sway anyone from running savage (that planned to run it anyway)? Sounds like a lot of QQing over nothing.
    Apparently they want story to be exclusive to them.

    Seriously. Who cares? Using story exclusivity for a motivation to do savage is stupid.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    Yeah, I read through the posts. Honestly, I don't think there's a problem.... I think it's fine, I think NM is there for the right reason, I think Savage is there for the right reason. Are they missing some of the mid-core stuff? Yes, and that's been noted before and maybe they'll do something about it. But I can't help but pour out the sarcasm on a thread that's based off of someone going on saying that everyone should be viewing the game by their standards.
    Yeah, they talked about midcore content back in ARR. It was supposed to come with heavensward, but it didn't. A matter of fact, they got rid of the only thing close to midcore content, a raid with a difficulty level comparable to coils.

    So, you think it's fine that a portion of the player base, much larger than the hardcore crowd, has no content designed for them? That's a big problem my friend. Without a Goldilocks zone of content, people will be left of the unpleasant taste of ice cold porridge (alex NM) or the burning sting of porridge that is too hot (alex SV).

    The people who want the "just right" level of difficulty are a much larger portion of the player base than the hardcore raiders and they are getting super bored super fast. I don't think the game wants to lose 10-20% of the players who comprise the midcore crowd.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    Erm what?...
    Go compare final coil, in 2.4 before all the nerfs and easy upgrade items came out to alex savage now. 2.5 which made final coil much easy, tons of upgrade items from CT quest line, 135 reilcs you could get before even beating bahamut and 20% echo. You see we are at the 2.4 stage back then not many groups were beating final coil per all nerfs.

    When 3.1 comes out and we get tons of upgrade items, relics a lot more people will find savage alex a lot easier. DPS checks will be a joke again you can have full vit tanks cause everyone will have full 210 and probably a relic if they haven't beat a4s.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 09-26-2015 at 08:10 AM.

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