NO MORE ALEXANDER(NM)!

[Lone-wolfe-02]

The whole Savage and Normal thing was a terrible idea in the first place. Mid core players like myself are stuck in a limbo of Normal being too easy and savage being too hard it's hard not to feel left out when casual and minority hardcore get their raids. Final coil was perfect difficulty for me it wasn't easy but not stupidly over the top hard.

[Zumi]

The whole Savage and Normal thing was a terrible idea in the first place. Mid core players like myself are stuck in a limbo of Normal being too easy and savage being too hard it's hard not to feel left out when casual and minority hardcore get their raids. Final coil was perfect difficulty for me it wasn't easy but not stupidly over the top hard.

Savage is the same as final coil pertty much

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Savage is the same as final coil pertty much

Erm what?...

[Zumi]

Erm what?...

Go compare final coil, in 2.4 before all the nerfs and easy upgrade items came out to alex savage now. 2.5 which made final coil much easy, tons of upgrade items from CT quest line, 135 reilcs you could get before even beating bahamut and 20% echo. You see we are at the 2.4 stage back then not many groups were beating final coil per all nerfs.

When 3.1 comes out and we get tons of upgrade items, relics a lot more people will find savage alex a lot easier. DPS checks will be a joke again you can have full vit tanks cause everyone will have full 210 and probably a relic if they haven't beat a4s.

[zosia]

Go compare final coil, in 2.4 before all he nerfs and easy upgrade items came out. 2.5 which made final coil much easy, tons of upgrade items in WoD, 135 reilcs you could get before even beating bahamut and 20% echo. You see we are at the 2.4 stage back then not many groups were beating final coil per all nerfs.

When 3.1 comes out and we get tons of upgrade items, relics a lot more people will find savage alex a lot easier.

You must not raid because alex savage is an entirely different beast than final coils.

Full ilvl 210 is not going to bail groups out of the coordination checks and performing under pressure.

The clear rates for t13 were at least around 3% before the nerfs. The clear rates for a4s are sub 1%. Full 210 is not going to bring the same level of clears to a4s that full ilvl130 brought to final coil.

Also, t13 had an significant gear checks, so more gear made that easier. A4s is not difficult by virtue of gear checks, it's difficult by virtue of mechanics.

[Zumi]

You must not raid because alex savage is an entirely different beast than final coils.

Full ilvl 210 is not going to bail groups out of the coordination checks and performing under pressure.

The clear rates for t13 were at least around 3% before the nerfs. The clear rates for a4s are sub 1%. Full 210 is not going to bring the same level of clears to a4s that full ilvl130 brought to final coil.

Also, t13 had an significant gear checks, so more gear made that easier. A4s is not difficult by virtue of gear checks, it's difficult by virtue of mechanics.

No i do raid check my profile you can see i have 210 gear.

The mechaincs aren't that hard its the dps checks, like hand of pain, having enough dps to kill the adds, beating the enrage timers on the boss in general. We have the most problems with dps checks and not mechancis, our set up is pld war mnk nin bard smn whm sch. No drg lost lot of dps and I don't play dark and no blm so thats a lack of burst dps when we need to bust stuff down like hand of pain.

We have no problems with mechanics its always been the dps checks for us. We did beat T13 pre nerfs.

[zosia]

No i do raid check my profile you can see i have 210 gear.

Just by comparing world 1st groups and their completion of FCoB and Savage alex, you would know that these raid tiers are far from the same. It did not take nearly as long for t13 to go down the 1st time as it did a4s.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Go compare final coil, in 2.4 before all the nerfs and easy upgrade items came out to alex savage now. 2.5 which made final coil much easy, tons of upgrade items from CT quest line, 135 reilcs you could get before even beating bahamut and 20% echo. You see we are at the 2.4 stage back then not many groups were beating final coil per all nerfs.

When 3.1 comes out and we get tons of upgrade items, relics a lot more people will find savage alex a lot easier. DPS checks will be a joke again you can have full vit tanks cause everyone will have full 210 and probably a relic if they haven't beat a4s.

Sorry i'm still in a state of shock that you compared final coil to savage alex... I don't remember taking acid today.

[Magis]

Savage is the same as final coil pertty much

Wut.... /10char

[Dererk]

The whole Savage and Normal thing was a terrible idea in the first place. Mid core players like myself are stuck in a limbo of Normal being too easy and savage being too hard it's hard not to feel left out when casual and minority hardcore get their raids. Final coil was perfect difficulty for me it wasn't easy but not stupidly over the top hard.

This right here. Normal should have been mid core. Not a face role thing where people completed every floor on the first day and got a guide made on the first day. It was very badly designed and the cs them selves don't even give that epic feeling like how Coil was. I am in a static that wants to do savage but wev had no shows for over 2 weeks and we only got past Faust in AS1 and from all the static recrutments and people looking for one we may not even be able to replace because every ones either on AS3or 4 progression.


If Alexander Normal was meant to exist so all can experience the story.

Then why the hell dose it even give loot? I think this is the question that needs to be asked and answered.