Add Ishgard as a nation to join.

[Enkidoh]

Who is saying let them become ishgard when you begin? Saying you can change nations when you are able to get to ishgard.

Again as I and Felis said Ishgard doesn't even have a Grand Company for this as they're not even part of the Eorzean Alliance (

okay, they do join the Alliance at the very end of the expansion, but they haven't formed a GC and probably never will, given the fact they don't even need one given the fact that they're the only city state with a standing army rather than relying on small militias, sellswords or adventurers which is the real reason for the existence of the Grand Companies).

Ishgrad also has their own internal and external problems to worry about than sending single-minded adventurers to participate in wargames squabbling over some stupid Allagan Mcguffins.

[Zeonx]

Again as I said Ishgard doesn't even have a Grand Company for this as they're not even part of the Eorzean Alliance (

at least, not until the very end of the expansion

). They also have their own internal problems to worry about than sending single-minded adventurers to participate in wargames squabbling over some stupid Allagan Mcguffins.

that's what I am basically saying, add a grand company there after you are able to get access to ishgard you have a option to change.

why is that a issue? it would just be something else to do for players who have already done everything else.

[Gilraen]

...at the very end of the expansion...

Why do people still believe this given we're looking at 3.1 later this year which no doubt will bring more Story quests along with whatever else it brings. We're nowhere near the end of the expansion, just like how 2.0 didn't end until 2.55. Ishgard, even after the current Story quests stopped, is still embroiled in all the same issues as the first Story quest. There's just fewer NPCs to help/hinder us in future questing. Does this mean Ishgard will never be a starting city? Maybe, maybe not, but that's not going to be revealed until 4.0 when we really will be past the end of the expansion.

[Malevicton]

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People keep saying it because they're referencing 3.0, not all of heavensward. No one thinks it's just over.

[Ashkendor]

Why do people still believe this given we're looking at 3.1 later this year which no doubt will bring more Story quests along with whatever else it brings. We're nowhere near the end of the expansion, just like how 2.0 didn't end until 2.55. Ishgard, even after the current Story quests stopped, is still embroiled in all the same issues as the first Story quest. There's just fewer NPCs to help/hinder us in future questing. Does this mean Ishgard will never be a starting city? Maybe, maybe not, but that's not going to be revealed until 4.0 when we really will be past the end of the expansion.

We're at the end of the story from the base expansion itself, not the subsequent patches that add more story.

[Gilraen]

We're at the end of the story from the base expansion itself, not the subsequent patches that add more story.

Exactly, we're nowhere near the end of the Story. The three nations were enjoying relative peace when the adventurers started filtering in. Ishgard is far from peaceful, it simply doesn't have the resources to see to the well being of adventurers much less it's own citizenry. Again, we likely won't see Ishgard as a starting city until it's own story is resolved and it's enjoying enough relative peace to reasonably host adventurers. I honestly think we'll see Revenant's Toll become a starting city long before Ishgard ever does.

[Felis]

Exactly, we're nowhere near the end of the Story. The three nations were enjoying relative peace when the adventurers started filtering in. Ishgard is far from peaceful, it simply doesn't have the resources to see to the well being of adventurers much less it's own citizenry. Again, we likely won't see Ishgard as a starting city until it's own story is resolved and it's enjoying enough relative peace to reasonably host adventurers. I honestly think we'll see Revenant's Toll become a starting city long before Ishgard ever does.

The thread is about grand companies, no starter cities.

Ishgard an Revenant's Toll can't be a starter city because they don't fulfill the rules for it.

1. A starter city need guilds for DoM and/or DoW classes that beginn at lv 1
2. There have to be lv1 enemies outside the city.

[Gilraen]

The thread is about grand companies, no starter cities.

That's the thing, though, the Companies are the standing adventurer armies of the starter cities, tasked with keeping the borders of their nations safe from Imperial incursion. Ishgard is pledged with fighting their own unique threat and doesn't have the resources to commit to that and the Garleans. Once the dravanians are put down 'for good' then they might be able to, but at that time they may as well be a starting city if they're going to go so far as also have a Company. And adding an area or two for low level quests wouldn't be so hard, we've yet to see the lands directly under Ishgard.